Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jenny....we are
thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and
SCADA projects.......I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to
let me tour his chop shop.

Jaime Solorza

On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" <> wrote:

> Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED
> cavern lights...  :)
> On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, wrote:
>> Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face....  a new list was
>> born... again...
>> I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem.... I still
>> remember names.....
>> But I think we have kinda patched things up.
>> They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my
>> blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see y’all.
>> As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old
>> and lazy to put on the show.
>> *From:* Chuck Hogg
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM
>> *To:*
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>> Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer"
>> listservs.  Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the
>> time, and his list was moved over.  I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list,
>> as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA.  That's when sh!t hit the fan,
>> some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola
>> list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I
>> notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped
>> from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was
>> going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down
>> the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born.  Ahhhh...the
>> memories :)
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup <>
>> wrote:
>>     Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the
>>     motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list
>>     server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of
>>     town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it
>>     back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately,
>>     the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a
>>     short time on the WISPA list serv?
>>     I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great.
>>     On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>>         You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got
>> here….
>>         The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA.
>>       Can’t recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the
>>         organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted
>>         the infamous “I quit” email - and that was pretty much the end
>>         of Part 15 and the list.  I actually think that was during a
>>         Animal Farm session if I recall correctly.
>>         Chuck took over the list after that - I don’t think it was
>>         called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that.   Might have
>>         even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic
>> anyway.
>>         There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on.   Yes -
>>         it’s Chuck’s list though occasionally the members donate money
>>         for the cost of hosting it.
>>         This list has it’s advantages.   It’s membership leans toward a
>>         group of people who have known each other for a very long
>>         time.   You probably shouldn’t say bad things about WBMfg
>>         products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair
>>         game.  I like it since it’s a place I can say things I can’t
>>         really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I can’t say without
>>         blowback to WISPA).
>>         Mark
>>             On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, wrote:
>>             Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too...
>>             -----Original Message----- From:
>>             Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM
>>             To:
>>             Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>>             I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list
>>             about once a year.
>>             You do realize that this list is my list, right?
>>             So essentially every time I make a posting here I am
>>             spamming you, right?
>>             I used to do it every Friday right here on this list.
>>             But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp.
>>             Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp?  That will prevent
>>             it from ever
>>             happening again.
>>             -----Original Message----- From:
>>             Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM
>>             To:
>>             Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
>>             I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that?
>>             I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists
>>             nor done any
>>             business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find
>>             it in extremely
>>             poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets.
>>             Jared

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