I am going to attempt to put something on the signup process warning folks that 
they will be subject to horrible amounts of on-topic spam.  

From: Philip Rankin 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

Spam me all you want Chuck. Unbeknownst to you, you have helped me more than 
about anyone throughout the years with your wisdom and products Sir!  I suspect 
the same can be said about almost everyone on this list!  I sincerely 
appreciate your list, your work, products and more so your wisdom throughout 
the years. Spam away Buddy!

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jaime Solorza <> wrote:


  Jaime Solorza

  On Feb 13, 2018 5:30 PM, <> wrote:

    Got a guest room waiting for you.  

    From: Jaime Solorza 
    Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:21 PM
    To: Animal Farm 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

    Maybe this summer I might drive up to bother Chuck and Jenny....we are 
thinking of hiking near 4 corners area. Depends on Windy City schedule and 
SCADA projects.......I think I can bribe him with choice El Paso eats to let me 
tour his chop shop.

    Jaime Solorza

    On Feb 13, 2018 5:00 PM, "Robert Andrews" <> wrote:

      Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED 
cavern lights...  :)

      On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, wrote:

        Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face....  a new list was 
born... again...
        I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem.... I still 
remember names.....
        But I think we have kinda patched things up.
        They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my 
blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see y’all.
        As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old 
and lazy to put on the show.
        *From:* Chuck Hogg
        *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
        Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" 
listservs.  Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, 
and his list was moved over.  I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a 
vendor at the time for WISPA.  That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other 
distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't 
Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the 
pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before 
WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M 
converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG 
list was born.  Ahhhh...the memories :)
        On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup 
<> wrote:

            Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the
            motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list
            server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of
            town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it
            back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately,
            the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a
            short time on the WISPA list serv?

            I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great.

            On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

                You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got 

                The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA.   
       Can’t recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the
                organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted
                the infamous “I quit” email - and that was pretty much the end
                of Part 15 and the list.  I actually think that was during a
                Animal Farm session if I recall correctly.

                Chuck took over the list after that - I don’t think it was
                called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that.   Might have
                even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic 

                There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on.   Yes -
                it’s Chuck’s list though occasionally the members donate money
                for the cost of hosting it.

                This list has it’s advantages.   It’s membership leans toward a
                group of people who have known each other for a very long
                time.   You probably shouldn’t say bad things about WBMfg
                products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair
                game.  I like it since it’s a place I can say things I can’t
                really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I can’t say without
                blowback to WISPA).


                    On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, wrote:

                    Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too...

                    -----Original Message----- From:
                    Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM
                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

                    I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list
                    about once a year.

                    You do realize that this list is my list, right?

                    So essentially every time I make a posting here I am
                    spamming you, right?

                    I used to do it every Friday right here on this list.
                    But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use 

                    Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp?  That will prevent
                    it from ever
                    happening again.

                    -----Original Message----- From:
                    Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM
                    Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

                    I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that?

                    I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists
                    nor done any
                    business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find
                    it in extremely
                    poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets.



Philip J. Rankin 
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