Can I show up in Utah sometime anyways... I am dying to see the new LED cavern lights... :)

On 02/13/2018 02:48 PM, wrote:
Yep, dead of night with greasepaint on my face.... a new list was born... again... I can name names over at WISPA that caused the problem.... I still remember names.....
But I think we have kinda patched things up.
They have pretty much co-opted the whole AnimalFarm idea with my blessings and I get to go to the show once a year and see y’all. As much as I would love to do an old fashioned AnimalFarm, I am too old and lazy to put on the show.
*From:* Chuck Hogg
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2018 3:38 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck
Yes, before I was on the Board at WISPA, they had hosted "manufacturer" listservs. Chuck, was the moderator of the list for "motorola" at the time, and his list was moved over. I wanted to host a MikroTik@ list, as I was a vendor at the time for WISPA. That's when sh!t hit the fan, some other distributors got butthurt, and WISPA decided that the motorola list wasn't Chuck M's, and the MikroTik list wasn't mine anymore. I notified Chuck M of the pending issues and how my list was getting ripped from under me...and before WISPA could notify Chuck M that his list was going to be taken over, Chuck M converted it to the AFMUG list, shut down the motorola@wispa list and the AFMUG list was born. Ahhhh...the memories :)
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:23 PM, George Skorup <> wrote:

    Yes, Michael Anderson. He got pissed about the OT stuff on the
    motorola@ list. IIRC, shortly after the I QUIT incident, the list
    server went down and he said it was a h/w failure (while out of
    town? I don't remember if that was the case) and finally brought it
    back up. But it was too late and AFMUG was born. More accurately,
    the "Motorola II" list was born, and I believe that was hosted for a
    short time on the WISPA list serv?

    I think the combination of WISPAmerica and Animal Farm is great.

    On 2/13/2018 4:06 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

        You have to go back a long way in WISP history for how we got here….

The list was Part-15 at one time, and existed prior to WISPA. Can’t recall the last name - Michael somebody ran the
        organization. One day Michael was mad about something and posted
        the infamous “I quit” email - and that was pretty much the end
        of Part 15 and the list.  I actually think that was during a
        Animal Farm session if I recall correctly.

        Chuck took over the list after that - I don’t think it was
        called AFMUG at the time, but it later became that.   Might have
        even been Motorola specific - not that it was ever on topic anyway.

        There are WISPA lists - but the AFMUG list has lived on.   Yes -
        it’s Chuck’s list though occasionally the members donate money
        for the cost of hosting it.

        This list has it’s advantages.   It’s membership leans toward a
        group of people who have known each other for a very long
        time.   You probably shouldn’t say bad things about WBMfg
        products (makes Chuck get all kranky) but everybody else if fair
        game.  I like it since it’s a place I can say things I can’t
        really say with a WISPA hat on (or at least I can’t say without
        blowback to WISPA).


            On Feb 13, 2018, at 2:13 PM, wrote:

            Fair warning, Forrest has spam rights too...

            -----Original Message----- From:
            Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:03 PM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

            I merge my AnimalFarm email list with my MailChimp list
            about once a year.

            You do realize that this list is my list, right?

            So essentially every time I make a posting here I am
            spamming you, right?

            I used to do it every Friday right here on this list.
            But I think it is cleaner and better quality to use MailChimp.

            Did you unsubscribe from the Mail Chimp?  That will prevent
            it from ever
            happening again.

            -----Original Message----- From:
            Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:58 AM
            Subject: [AFMUG] Spam from Chuck

            I just got spammed by Chuck McCown. What's up with that?

            I sure as hell haven't signed up for any of his email lists
            nor done any
            business with him, or even indicate I would like to. I find
            it in extremely
            poor taste to mine the Af list for spam targets.


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