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From: Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive It works fine here. Problem free(ish). Those that want to donate can cover the costs. Pauls been very reliable, and never needs a snickers so little to no risk of an "i quit" Id say we should just have a swear jar, but i dont have that kind of money. One option would be to stick half the fund drive into something with crypto coin shennanigans, cash out 1/2 biannually. But then taxes somewhere... Having it third party hosted in the manner that it is keeps the list outside any individuals attitude, which is pretty good idea. Sure paul can cancel an account, but he cant just power down a vm, throttle a connection, not feel like dealing with a blacklist issue, withdraw vm host resources, etc, not that i think he would. Not directed at you mike, just a generalization. Maybe pimp some friday spam access to some non list member vendors for a fee, but we all know, once they come see this place, theyll join up. This is the best cult this side of waco. On Feb 18, 2018 5:10 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: These guys: https://www.emwd.com/mailman-hosting/ advertise they can do it for $3/month. Perhaps they can. I just don’t want to make a change I will regret. And I do not want to have to personally be the mechanic. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive I agree. Toss some money at him, I'm sure we can spare it On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: Yep... this always comes up. I think the consensus has always been that it's easier for those of us who are willing, to just chip in occasionally and keep it as is, then to mess with what's been working well. On Feb 18, 2018 1:36 PM, "Robert Andrews" <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: Seems like this same conversation came up last year. Folks, if you don't want to pay, propose doing the work. Seems like it's well worth 100 bucks for the enjoyment I get out of it. I pay way more than that for things way less enjoyable, but necessary to keep peace at home... On 02/18/2018 11:30 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Then is a pledge drive needed? Blacklists are the recipients problems. Not the mailing list owners problem - as long as nothing shady is going on. On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:15, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: Those that run the list are happy to pay for not dealing with blacklists, etc. whatever SES provides. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:12:56 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive What is SES? Amazon? That seems overkill for a mailing list. On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:09, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: SES ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Sent: *Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:05:36 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive Support of what??? What the heck costs that much? Mailman takes all of 10 minutes to install and just lives after that. On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:52, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com <mailto:ryan...@gmail.com>> wrote: Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including support, $1800 not including support. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: Can it really be more than $5???? How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take when virtualized? On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com <mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote: Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list? On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive. Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> Paul, what is the current status of our deficit? -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
