Ooooo it has been awhile since you and I have had a good disagreement.

Can I outsource my TDWR compliance?

On 5/2/18 8:44 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
If the equipment is operating as designed, no reason to unnecessarily block it out....  unless maybe you're pointed right at the radar.

If you want to disagree real quick, we can talk about outsourced support or any of a myriad of topics.



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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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*From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, May 2, 2018 7:43:17 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

I tend to agree with you, yet again Mike. Although I still think it is stupid that they didn’t block out that frequency if they knew they were in a radar area.

On May 2, 2018, at 08:38, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

    I don't believe I saw anything in the FCC report that anything was
    intentional. For all we know this is as simple as updated the
    firmware, entered the unlock code, didn't apply the stupid sticker,
    DFS code had a false negative, FCC caught him.

    Usually the reports are full of stuff like, "After 47 attempts to
    get this operator to behave correctly, they shat on the agent's face."

    Given the docile tone of the report, I'll assume it was a bad sticker.



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    <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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    *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
    <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
    *To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Sent: *Wednesday, May 2, 2018 12:15:33 AM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

    wanna get some interesting offlist hate mail? start naming names of
    vendors who sell non US to the US market on the AFMUG list..... they
    watch. because theyre fucking scumbags.. I hope this operator gets
    fucked, and I hope they ultimately seek out the vendor and nail them
    somehow as well. Im dealing with some 3ghz nonsense right now, had
    to kill an AP today over it, Ill almost guarantee the operator has a
    non US nanobridge up.I got one once and when I started wondering,
    the vendor offlisted me, because they sold me some nonsense. I do my
    best to operate legally, and if Im not sure I dont operate or
    operate under power. You check my network, if you find something out
    of whack its operator error (me, as in I messed up) not operator
    dickheadedness. If WISPA were worth its salt they would offer a
    "certification" like i mentioned many times previously, where they
    would come in for an at cost audit. But sometimes I dont think WISPA
    is actually interested in our industry actually looking "professional"

    On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:30 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

        I remember Sterling's find was originally $25K.  Not sure what
        he eventually settled at.

        -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
        Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:21 PM
        To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

        I'm pretty sure Microserv had a fine over a misconfigured
        Mikrotik.  I
        seem to think it was $25k, but my memory isn't perfect.
        I'd be surprised if these guys didn't get slapped though.

        -Adam

        ------ Original Message ------
        From: "David Coudron" <david.coud...@advantenon.com
        <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>>
        To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com
        <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
        Sent: 5/1/2018 4:17:27 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

            At the bottom I think they said they will consider what, if
            any fines will be levied.   At least that is the way I read it.

            Thanks,

            David Coudron
            david.coud...@advantenon.com
            <mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com>  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474

            Advantenon, Inc.
            i...@advantenon.com <mailto:i...@advantenon.com>  |  3500
            Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447  |
            www.advantenon.com <http://www.advantenon.com>  |  Phone:
            800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545



            -----Original Message-----
            From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com
            <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
            Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 3:15 PM
            To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

            I noticed there was no fine mentioned.  Does that come later?


            ------ Original Message ------
            From: "Seth Mattinen" <se...@rollernet.us
            <mailto:se...@rollernet.us>>
            To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
            Sent: 5/1/2018 2:08:56 PM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action

                On 5/1/18 10:51, Tim Hardy wrote:

                    LV.NET <http://LV.NET> <http://LV.NET>; LAS VEGAS,
                    NEVADA �89104. ��Notice of
                    Unlicensed Operation and Notification of Harmful
                    Interference issued
                    for interference complaint to FAA Terminal Doppler
                    Weather Radar
                    operating on 5645 MHz in Las Vegas, Nevada. Action
                    by: �Regional
                    Director, Region Three, Enforcement Bureau. Adopted:
                    �04/27/2018 by
                    Notice. �EB
                    
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-350491A1.docx
                    
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-350491A1.pdf



                Only an idiot would use a TDWR frequency anywhere near
                an airport with
                one. That's just challenging someone to come find you.

                Is that an DFS unlock code with updated sticker required
                model they
                were using, but didn't bother to actually put the new
                sticker on it?






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