Most of the problems I have dealt with in FCC actions have been non-WISP
operators using UBNT equipment capable of being operated in the TDWR
bands.  One was a storage unit, they modified the radio configuration
because they couldn't reliably get good rates for their camera system.  The
storage unit had no idea what was going on because a consultant did it for
them.  Essentially, the FCC agent forced them to shut the system down as
they didn't even have a login for the device.

I know of another instance involving a LED sign company using UBNT gear.
Again, the store had no idea what was going on.  The company who installed
the sign didn't even realize what they were doing.

With the advent of WISP gear on Amazon and other various sources on how to
easily deploy this gear, there are lots of outside interference problems
both legal and illegal that are caused by non-WISP operators.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

> The problem with audits is that they prove you've done something wrong.
> Some places care about intention to make things right and some places just
> care that it was ever wrong.
>
>
>
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> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:54:33 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action
>
> And lends more credibility to the industry as a whole
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018, 9:47 AM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> There's a bit more than four rules...
>>
>> In 5ghz alone, there's EIRP in UNII-1, UNII-2 and UNII-3, which are all
>> different, then there's PtP vs PtMP.
>> Then there are the registration requirements and EIRP limits in 3.65ghz,
>> which 75% of operates seem to either have very little understanding of, or
>> just plain ignore. Not to mention the fact that there are plenty of
>> operators who don't even understand how to calculate EIRP properly... just
>> the other day, I saw somebody on the Baicells facebook group that thought
>> they could use a 10 watt 3.65ghz eNB in the US because a lawyer told them
>> that they could use up to 25 watts...
>>
>> But the purpose of an audit would be to have somebody check over all your
>> stuff and make sure that you actually have everything setup to conform to
>> the rules - whether it be because of poor understanding of the rules, or
>> just to check for mistakes, it would be a very useful service.
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 6:21 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@
>> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Why do you need an audit?  There are like 4 rules to follow.
>>>
>>> EIRP for:
>>> 900mhz
>>> 2.4GHz
>>> 3.65GHz
>>> 5GHz
>>>
>>> Add power plus antenna.
>>>
>>> On May 2, 2018, at 01:15, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> wanna get some interesting offlist hate mail? start naming names of
>>> vendors who sell non US to the US market on the AFMUG list..... they watch.
>>> because theyre fucking scumbags.. I hope this operator gets fucked, and I
>>> hope they ultimately seek out the vendor and nail them somehow as well. Im
>>> dealing with some 3ghz nonsense right now, had to kill an AP today over it,
>>> Ill almost guarantee the operator has a non US nanobridge up.I got one once
>>> and when I started wondering, the vendor offlisted me, because they sold me
>>> some nonsense. I do my best to operate legally, and if Im not sure I dont
>>> operate or operate under power. You check my network, if you find something
>>> out of whack its operator error (me, as in I messed up) not operator
>>> dickheadedness. If WISPA were worth its salt they would offer a
>>> "certification" like i mentioned many times previously, where they would
>>> come in for an at cost audit. But sometimes I dont think WISPA is actually
>>> interested in our industry actually looking "professional"
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:30 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I remember Sterling's find was originally $25K.  Not sure what he
>>>> eventually settled at.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 2:21 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure Microserv had a fine over a misconfigured Mikrotik.  I
>>>> seem to think it was $25k, but my memory isn't perfect.
>>>> I'd be surprised if these guys didn't get slapped though.
>>>>
>>>> -Adam
>>>>
>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>> From: "David Coudron" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: 5/1/2018 4:17:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action
>>>>
>>>> At the bottom I think they said they will consider what, if any fines
>>>>> will be levied.   At least that is the way I read it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> David Coudron
>>>>> [email protected]  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474
>>>>>
>>>>> Advantenon, Inc.
>>>>> [email protected]  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth,
>>>>> MN 55447
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=3500+Vicksburg+Lane+N,+Suite+315,+Plymouth,+MN+55447&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> |  www.advantenon.com  |  Phone: 800-704-4720  |  Local: 612-454-1545
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Af <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 3:15 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed there was no fine mentioned.  Does that come later?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "Seth Mattinen" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: 5/1/2018 2:08:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FCC Enforcement Action
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/1/18 10:51, Tim Hardy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LV.NET <http://LV.NET>; LAS VEGAS, NEVADA �89104. ��Notice of
>>>>>>> Unlicensed Operation and Notification of Harmful Interference issued
>>>>>>> for interference complaint to FAA Terminal Doppler Weather Radar
>>>>>>> operating on 5645 MHz in Las Vegas, Nevada. Action by: �Regional
>>>>>>> Director, Region Three, Enforcement Bureau. Adopted: �04/27/2018 by
>>>>>>> Notice. �EB
>>>>>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-350491A1.docx
>>>>>>> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-350491A1.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only an idiot would use a TDWR frequency anywhere near an airport with
>>>>>> one. That's just challenging someone to come find you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that an DFS unlock code with updated sticker required model they
>>>>>> were using, but didn't bother to actually put the new sticker on it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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