Vision and hearing... And?

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 11:58 PM Secretary of Trades <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Vision and hearing.
>
>
> On 02.08.2019 04:12, Mohammadreza Alidoust wrote:
> > Thank you. I really enjoy and appreciate your comments.
> >
> > There is no universal problem solver. So for the purpose of building a
> > real AGI, how many problems should our model be able to solve? How big
> > is our problem space?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 8:22 AM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     The human brain cannot solve every problem. There is no
> >     requirement for AGI to do so either. Hutter and Legg proved that
> >     there is no such thing as a universal problem solver or predictor.
> >
> >     It feels like you could solve any problem given enough effort, but
> >     that is an illusion. In reality you can't read a 20 digit number
> >     and recite it back. The human brain is good at solving problems
> >     that improve reproductive fitness, and that's only because it is
> >     very complex with thousands of specialized structures and a
> >     billion bits of inherited knowledge.
> >
> >     On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 10:58 PM Mohammadreza Alidoust
> >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >         I may not call the model "a reinforcement learning neural
> >         network", because nothing is going to be reinforced there. I
> >         would rather call it "model based decision making" where the
> >         model of the world will be incrementally completed and more
> >         accurate, which then helps in better decision making.
> >
> >         The model is in its early stages and must be tested in heavier
> >         tasks like the ones you mentioned. However, I believe that AGI
> >         is an infinite problem-space and a real AGI must be able to
> >         solve everything. This requires further implementations,
> >         modifications, time, teamwork, financial support, etc.
> >
> >         On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 1:34 AM Matt Mahoney
> >         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> >
> >             Not understanding the math is the reader's problem. It is
> >             necessary to describe the theory and the experiments and
> >             shouldn't be omitted.
> >
> >             The paper describes 3 phases of training a reinforcement
> >             learning neural network. The first phase is experimenting
> >             with random actions. The next two phases choose the action
> >             estimated to maximize reward. They differ in that they use
> >             explicit and then implicit memory, although the paper
> >             didn't explain these or other details of the learner.
> >
> >             I like that the paper has an experimental results section,
> >             which most papers on AGI lack. But I think calling it a
> >             "AGI brain" is a stretch. It learns in highly abstract
> >             models of chemical manufacturing or cattle grazing. It
> >             doesn't demonstrate actual AGI or solve any major
> >             components like language or vision.
> >
> >             On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 8:01 AM Manuel Korfmann
> >             <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >                 I guess he meant: It’s difficult to understand all
> >                 these mathematical equations. Visualizations are
> >                 better at transporting ideas in a way that almost
> >                 everyone can understand easily.
> >
> >>                 On 31. Jul 2019, at 13:46, Mohammadreza Alidoust
> >>                 <[email protected]
> >>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                 Thank you for reading my paper. I wish you success too.
> >>
> >>                 Could you please explain more about the readership? I
> >>                 am afraid I did not get the point.
> >>
> >>                 Best regards,
> >>                 Mohammadreza Alidoust
> >>
> >>
> >>                 On Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 2:14 PM Stefan Reich via AGI
> >>                 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>                 wrote:
> >>
> >>                     If someone paid me to go, I'd go... :-)
> >>
> >>
> http://agi-conf.org/2019/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/paper_21.pdf
> >>
> >>                     I like the stages you define in your paper
> >>                     (infancy, decision making, expert). Sounds
> >>                     reasonable.
> >>
> >>                     I pretty much erased mathematical formulas from
> >>                     my brain though, even though I have studied those
> >>                     things. These days I prefer to think in natural
> >>                     language or code. Increases the readership
> >>                     exponentially too. :-)
> >>
> >>                     Many greetings and best wishes to you
> >>
> >>
> >>                     On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 at 02:13, Mohammadreza
> >>                     Alidoust <[email protected]
> >>                     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                         Dear Stefan Reich,
> >>
> >>                         Thank you. I do not know whether submitting
> >>                         my paper before official publication by
> >>                         Springer is against their copyrights or not.
> >>                         I am not sure about their rules. I will ask
> >>                         the authorities when I arrived Shenzhen and
> >>                         inform you.
> >>
> >>                         However I recommend not to miss the AGI-19.
> >>                         http://agi-conf.org/2019/
> >>
> >>
> >>                         Best regards,
> >>                         Mohammadreza Alidoust
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>                     --
> >>                     Stefan Reich
> >>                     BotCompany.de <http://BotCompany.de> //
> >>                     Java-based operating systems
> >>
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