On Friday, November 08, 2019, at 2:15 AM, WriterOfMinds wrote: > "Look, I am a machine and I hate pain, I love reproduction and eating food > the most and also AGI - which increases my chances of eating and playing > video games and mating etc in the future." > Do you care about what any other entity wants, hates, or loves? Not because > what they want will indirectly help get you what you want -- no -- I mean do > you actually care about *them* and want to get them what *they want* for > *their* sake alone? If the answer is "no" ... it's time to learn how. Because > it's self-disinterested love ... not eating and mating and the immortality to > do it more ... that creates utopia. If I'm not being 100% logical yes you know I say Yes. I cry sometimes. But being logical, I do but it is definitely my brain signalling a yes because it affects my standpoint in a system. As I said, we comprise a global system and each node has a self-sustain agenda and don't often suicide or sacrifice my life for the hive's benefit (some do, but not me! Not my life at least, maybe my cash). I tried explaining to you, that in a global system, my agenda / the global physics results in my possible attaining of others cash if I do well in my specialty; computer science or, scamming lol. IOW in evolution the stronger populate and live longer if they invent useful ideas or remove other agents... There's an actual way this works and I gave many hints...
On Friday, November 08, 2019, at 2:15 AM, WriterOfMinds wrote: > "Do you **really** need me to show you what happens in the jungle? Or the pig > butcher shed?" > No, thank you. I'm knowledgeable about what happens in both places ... and > I've rejected it. You remember I don't eat meat, right? The fact that > certain things happen tells me nothing about whether they *should *happen, so > I'm not sure why you mention this, as if it proved something. > It proves lions and dogs are evil too, moms that buy iphones for teen girls are evil too as NanoGrateTechnologies said lol. Farmers KNOW what they are doing; ending lives. Nothing has to stop them but legs themselves, fighting back. Nothing otherwise needs to punish them! So all unethical behavior is only bad if you get punished, you can get away in time & space if you have Power. You can do anything, and get away with it, if you have the right machine system. That's why leg kicking IS needing back. Although as I said above there's reasons for keeping others around in this system. My point is sorta that things are messy, resources are churned around to refine themselves and teamup to defeat themselves, people steal, death and replacement happen, we're not conscious and only kick back to defend our life. On Friday, November 08, 2019, at 2:15 AM, WriterOfMinds wrote: > "For the global system I am part of, [me stealing] may actually be wrong, the > better 'gear' who has more skills etc should live, not the gear who doesn't. > So in optimal functionality, the program would move resources/life extension > towards the more import gears for survival." > So ... if some kind of majority judges you to be one of the less important > gears, are you prepared to die young? If the system declares you sub-optimal > and eats you, will you still think it's a good system? I wouldn't advocate > that, but if you agreed to it, you would at least be consistent. > Hahahaha, I am young, but I have a great motivation (AGI) and a lot of free time too. So there's lots of potential! Good investment. And I have yet to prove my discoveries, so you can't tell yet, the judgement awaits! ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T252d8aea50d6d8f9-M4cc9bc3458a0e3536568b5fb Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
