Chris Langan's CTMU does seem to offer a unification if IS with OUGHT within a computational framework and that is indeed why I initially contacted him regarding Algorithmic Information Theory's potential of providing at least the IS in what he calls "The Linear Ectomorphic Semimodel of Reality" aka, ordinary linear time of mechanistic science.
But really, John, give me a break. The problem of getting people to be reasonable about just mechanistic science, given the noise imposed on science by the likes of Popper and Kuhn, is hard enough. On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 8:28 AM John Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sunday, August 06, 2023, at 7:06 PM, James Bowery wrote: > > Better compression requires not just correlation but causation, which is > the entire point of going beyond statistics/Shannon Information criteria to > dynamics/Algorithmic information criterion. > > Regardless of your values, if you can't converge on a global dynamical > model of causation you are merely tinkering with subsystems in an > incoherent fashion. You'll end up robbing Peter to pay Paul -- having > unintended consequences affecting your human ecologies -- etc. > > That's why engineers need scientists -- why OUGHT needs IS -- why SDT > needs AIT -- etc. > > > I like listening to non-mainstream music for different perspectives. I > wonder what Cristopher Langan thinks of the IS/OUGHT issue with his > atemporal non-dualistic protocomputational view of determinism/causality. I > like the idea of getting rid of time… and/or multidimensional time… Also > I’m a big fan of free will. Free will gives us a tool to fight totalitarian > systems. We can choose not to partake in systems, for example modRNA > injections and CBDC's. So we need to fight to maintain free will IMHO. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBjmne9X1VQ > > John > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T772759d8ceb4b92c-M85774330f9c2a75525e1a0ff> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T772759d8ceb4b92c-Mc27c7488b0271da4e39e5e78 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
