Please note the, uh, popularity of the notion that there is no free will.
Also note Matt's prior comment on recursive self improvement having started
with primitive technology.

>From this "popular" perspective, there is no *principled* reason to view
"AGI Safety" as distinct from the de facto utility function guiding
decisions at a global level.

On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 10:27 AM Shashank Yadav <shashank@asatae.foundation>
wrote:

> Whats with everyone these days viewing markets and economy as some sort of
> 'general intelligence'? Those are essentially just voting mechanisms and
> voting mechanisms produce poor decisions all the time.
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> regards,
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> The task is not impossible <https://muskdeer.blogspot.com/>.
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> ---- On Wed, 06 Dec 2023 17:44:57 +0530 *John Rose
> <johnr...@polyplexic.com <johnr...@polyplexic.com>>* wrote ---
>
> On Tuesday, December 05, 2023, at 9:53 AM, James Bowery wrote:
>
> The anti-vaxers, in the final analysis, and at an inchoate level, want to
> be able to maintain strict migration into their territories of virulent
> agents of whatever level of abstraction.  That is what makes the agents of
> The Unfriendly AGI Known As The Global Economy treat them as the "moral"
> equivalent of "xenophobes":  to be feared and controlled by any means
> necessary.
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>
> The concept of GloboCap from CJ Hopkins, which I thought was brilliant,
> can be viewed yes as an Unfriendly AGI, yes:
> https://youtu.be/-n2OhCuf8_s
>
> These fiat systems though are at least semicyclic through time. We are at
> the end of various cycles here though including a fiat, next is a digital
> control system and, this time is different but full of opportunities and
> dangers.
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