Jim,

 

If "only" bothers you I'll remove it. No problem. I tried to emphasize that
there is one squirrell and he is in one position at any particular instant
of time. And at another instant he is in some other position, and so on. And
that is what I mean when I say that the squirrell is moving. Mind the fact
that this is multi-disciplinary, and people talk differently in different
disciplines. Communication is a real serious problem we have to face. 

 

Of course he can be moving one leg one way and another the other way and
minding a nearby tree in case he has to jump, all at the same time. All
that, I call behavior. I see behavior as an algorithm, composed of all the
signals that the brain sends to the muscles. At one instant, the brain is
sending a certain combination of signals. At the next, it is sending a
different combination. These signals, and the resulting contractions of the
muscles, determine the successive positions of the squirrel. 

 

I didn't say a word about how those control signals come to be. I didn't say
that the signals are given a-priori or for ever fixed. But I have to build a
machine, this is an AGI blog. So my next step would be to ask how those
signals are determined - they are determined because they are there - what
do the depend on - they must depend on something because they change. The
brain does this. 

 

Sergio

 

 

From: Jim Bromer [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:23 PM
To: AGI
Subject: Re: [agi] The 2 Tests of AGI - generalizability & creativity

 

No it is not "only one behavior".  You are again using exaggerated language.
(I tried to explain that to you before.)  It is "one behavior" in the sense
that it is not some other behavior, but to simplify to the point to saying
that it is -only one - behavior is really unacceptable.  If he is
oscillating and dithering as he climbs the tree then couldn't we say that it
is a combination of behaviors?

 

This kind of just this and nothing more kind of characterization always
bothers me because the world, human behavior, animal behavior, the universe
is not -just one thing- except of course that it is in the totality of the
complexity of all that it is.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Sergio Pissanetzky <[email protected]>
wrote:

 

But when the squirrel reacts, does it or does it not have only one behavior?
Or are you implying that it may climb two trees at the same time? Whatever
that behavior is, I don't care, he may dither, oscillate, anything you want,
but it does only one thing. He may have considered all options,  places to
hide, whatever you want. But then, it starts doing only one thing. Which he
may change almost immediately if something else comes to attention, but it
is only one thing. 

 

Sergio


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