Ben P.S. -
I can part understand, part forgive your, culturally extremely widespread,
reluctance to think physically and visually.
But what is truly insane is your and the general inability to see that logic
produces utterly trivial results in relation to the real world, and is
totally INCAPABLE OF ANY **NEW** CONCLUSIONS/IDEAS - wh. are the stuff of
AGI.
My (and everyone's) ability to produce all kinds of new ideas about how Sue
and Jane might have met at the clinic, is an embodied affair.
In the final analysis, logic is tautological:
This Will Make You Smarter (John Brockman)
Bart Kosko:
The catch is that we can really only prove tautologies. The great binary
truths of mathematics are still logically equivalent to the tautology 1 = 1
or Green is green. This differs from the factual statements we make about
the real world-statements such as "Pine needles are green" or "Chlorophyll
molecules reflect green light." These factual statements are approximations.
They are technically vague or fuzzy. And they often come juxtaposed with
probabilistic uncertainty: "Pine needles are green with high probability."
Note that this last statement involves triple uncertainty. There is first
the vagueness of green pine needles because there is no bright line between
greenness and non-greenness-it is a matter of degree. There is second only a
probability whether pine needles have the vague property of greenness. And
there is last the magnitude of the probability itself. The magnitude is the
vague or fuzzy descriptor "high," because here, too, there is no bright line
between high probability and not-high probability.
Logic doesn't even have concepts (like "green") - as, essentially, Kosko is
indicating above.
Our ability to come up with new ideas is founded on our *body* and its
PHYSICAL MOBILITY - we can simulate ourselves (and by extension others and
other objects) moving along altogether new lines. We also have SENSORY
MOBILITY - an ability to flex and repaint our sensory images in our
reflective imagination, and so interpret concepts like "green" flexibly and
change the shade, tint, colour etc in our minds.
As I said, you can just look at all the examples of logic used in AI
textbooks, like your Sue and Jane, and see that they are all toy stuff.
There are no examples of logic being real world productive.
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AGI
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