On 11/09/2012, at 17.19, "Mike Tintner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> AT:Well, let's just say that one of my working hypotheses is that "seeing" > may be too little for AGI. > > Well, the question is - why does an agent need sight anyway? We don't > understand (*are* there any theories?) at what point an agent needs sight. > It may be that a real-world-worthy robot first needs a kinaesthetic sense of > its body In the mathematical set of all possible universes, as well as our humble planet, there are endless possibilities for survival, reproduction and evolution with very little "sensing", meaning structuring the organism in a way that the organism will react to a select few photons and field forces out of the multitude that organisms are exposed too. Then again sensing is extremely widespread, plants can also seek out sun and resources but it could be argued that this happens in a purely mechanistic way and anyway plants wouldn't disappear from the face of the earth if they didn't lean towards the sun. Of course the key concept behind sensing is localization, everything from where a tiger is to where your arm ended up even though you intended it to push a door open and be in full extension. Localization works best in a world without too much telekinesis, teleportation or nuclear explosions, and of course with the laws of physics remaining relatively constant. Strangely our earth-spaceship is stable enough to localize a Dino skeleton from hundreds of millions of years ago. I still very much doubt that any universe, except for the absolutely trivial ones, allows an entity to decipher it, but the proof may have to wait for hundreds of millions of years as it depends on formalizations of entity, intelligence and universe. AT ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-c97d2393 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-2484a968 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
