Frankly, Jim, definitions are for wankers. The last resort of s.o. who doesn’t 
want to get anywhere.

Your ideas about algorithms’ powers are fictional. There isn’t an algorithm in 
the world that isn’t mindblowingly limited – that just “builds” Lego houses and 
no other kind of structure, or “cooks” one set of dishes and nothing else.

Take just about any verb you like – “travel”, “fly”, “calculate”, “compute,” 
“translate,” et al – and an algorithm will only be able to do one 
hyperspecialised version, compared to the infinite possibilities.

Show us something actual and general/creative, with new elements, that algos 
can do  - or please stop wasting air.



From: Jim Bromer 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:13 PM
To: AGI 
Subject: Re: [agi] ONE EXAMPLE

Mike,
How many times does it take to get this idea across to you.  You are confusing 
a primitive definition of algorithm - which might be currently acceptable to 
many people - as a fundamental notion of the characterization of a computer 
program.
Jim


On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Mike Tintner <[email protected]> wrote:

  P.P.P.S.  Just to ram this home -

  UNLESS you do something like I’ve suggested, (and I know none of you have) -

  a) tackle a proper creative problem (and what better than geometrical/math 
ones for you?) -

  (you don’t have to come anywhere near solving it, just have a go at it), and 
then

  b) try and algorithmise/systematise your thinking -

  unless you do that, you will NEVER understand AGI.

  If you do, note what is the “set of elements”/options to be thought about 
here? (there never is one).

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