Mike Tintner wrote:

> We are continually following (and imposing) lines of action and thought. 
> It's hardly a big stretch to see those lines as represented in the brain - 
> there to guide the planning of our movements and thoughts.

It is a big stretch, to me.  You apply the word "line" in all sorts of creative 
and metaphorical ways to various activities, which is fine for us -- that is 
how humans think -- but the challenge of AGI is figuring out how to get 
computers to do those things.  It doesn't do any good to suggest mechanisms 
that require general intelligence just to use... 

And besides it is far from clear to me that implementing an artificial 
intelligence using some literal sense of "lines" is necessary or even a good 
idea.  To be convincing you have to at least give some indication about how a 
computer program would go about doing it.

> but presumably, animals - and any AGI robot - must have some internal 
> equivalent, however crude, of our external maps

Certainly!  This is much more sensible.  Brains do in fact have at least one 
extensive and complicated mapping system (google "place cells" for more info, 
and I think the various native coordinate systems used in the brain could 
possibly be put to similar generative use).  My personal tentative belief is 
that at least some of the "basic" concepts underlying our conceptual system -- 
image schemas and other foundational general/powerful things -- are laboriously 
abstracted in early childhood from these hardwired special-purpose brain 
circuits (possibly some have, in a rudimentary way, been "compiled" into the 
genome to make that easier).  Another example could involve abstracting the 
so-called "object file" which our brains use to keep track of important objects 
in our environment... perhaps the whole "object" concept starts from there... I 
don't know how this would work (yet)... Jean Matter Mandler has a theory she 
calls Perceptual Meaning Analysis which looks promising and is pretty close -- 
but too vague for engineering use.

Derek Zahn

                                          

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