On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Then since these open-source-GMO's will have source-code available, > people will be able to verify they don't have malevolent side-effects such > as those found in current "Evil" GMO's > http://www.responsibletechnology.org/article-gmo-soy-linked-to-sterility . > > It's too bad the hamsters in this study were inbred. You would expect > a high rate of genetic abnormalities in some of the groups regardless > of what they were fed. > here are two more studies, these ones done on mice, using corn GM vs non with similar results. http://www.biolsci.org/v05p0706.htm (mammalian health) "We conclude that these data highlight signs of hepatorenal toxicity, possibly due to the new pesticides specific to each GM corn. In addition, unintended direct or indirect metabolic consequences of the genetic modification cannot be excluded." http://www.gmfreecymru.org/pivotal_papers/crucial1.htm (reproductive ability) " In the group fed with A REF(non-gmo) corn fewer females were without litters, and accordingly more pups were weaned. The production parameters average litter size and weight as well as number of weaned pups were in favour of the ISO(non-gmo) group. These differences were also seen in the RACB design and were statistically significant in the 3rd and 4th litters. In addition, the inter-individual variability was higher in the GM(gmo) group as compared to the other groups." "Analyses of metabolic pathways indicated, that the groups differed regarding some important pathways, including interleukin signalling pathway, cholesterol biosynthesis and protein metabolism" > > Also, the study doesn't separate the effects of the genetic > modification (resistance to herbicides) from the effects of the > herbicides. This could be tested by giving one group of hamsters > unmodified soy sprayed with Roundup . > > That would be ridiculous, considering that unmodified soy sprayed with roundup would die. Also typically, herbicides and pesticides can be washed off, but in GMO's "MON 810 and MON 863 are engineered to synthesize two different Bt toxins used as insecticides." which as they are manufactured in every cell can't be washed off. > -- > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/5037279-a88c7a6d > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
