Sorry Tim (pls pls change the black background)  -your response to Deutsch is 
pretty “dopey”.

Deutsch’s “UNIVERSAL computers etc – can’t work without a human” is actually a 
starting point for AGI.

The idea that there is such a thing as an independent ALGO is a total FANTASY.

That’s one of the first things you have to recognize to do AGI – algos don’t 
and can’t function in the real world without humans assisting and directing 
them. They are not independent systems like us, they are just limited punch 
cards, and they depend on human help to function at all. 

And humans are directing algos by doing a kind of thinking – high-level 
creative thinking, as opposed to algos’ low level routine thinking, -  that AGI 
has to discover for the first time, and work out how to emulate. That’s the 
point of a TM2  – it’s designed to be the first creative machine.

Having zero respect for the human mind, when you can’t understand, let alone 
emulate, its still-as-yet-unmechanised high-level functions , is a pretty dopey 
position to take.  Deutsch at least gets the general principles here, you 
don’t. 










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