No Jim, that's not all there is to metaphor and analogy, but I do not have 
adequate teaching ability to explain it to you.  I could refer you again to 
Hofstadter, but you already blew that suggestion once, so I am content to let 
you wallow in your ignorance  except to point out again that you are not with 
us people who find a greater role for it.
andi

Can I help?

On May 14, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:

> In reference to my summary (where I said I was going to create a text-based 
> AGI program) Andi did say that metaphors were the reason text would be 
> inadequate or something like, that but he did not actually take the next step 
> to provide a reason to backup or explain this.
>  
> A metaphor is a form of reasoning by similarity.  The term 'analogous 
> reasoning', might suggest a more abstract form of reasoning by similarity.  I 
> believe that certain IQ tests use analogous knowledge to test if the person 
> has integrated similar cultural knowledge appropriately.
>  
> The Bears are to Chicago
> As the ________ are to Boston.
>  
> A lamb is to a sheep
> As a ___ is to a tiger. 
>  
>  
> A metaphor then might originally be an example of purposeful analogy.  For 
> example, "That lamb pounced on me like a tiger ___"
>  
> So for a fresh metaphor to be understandable it probably has a reason for its 
> use.  Of course, archaic metaphors, like the past tense of the verb 'go' are 
> mostly lost to people who aren't familiar with old English texts.
>  
> Jim Bromer
>  
>  
>  
> > Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 21:52:50 -0400
> > Subject: RE: [agi] What a TM1 and a TM2 look like from the outside
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > 
> > Jim Bromer threw a stone at Mike:
> > > What is your IQ Mike?
> > 
> > What's your IQ, Jim?
> > 
> > 
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