Nobody is saying philosophy is the whole deal in AGI, but only that it has a place. Look, if it were not for Aristotle, long known as "The Philosopher" there wouldn't even be the syllogism. You have to take your foot off the quantitative gas pedal sometime, you know.
On 8/1/13, Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> wrote: > Philosophy doesn't contribute anything to AI, but it's fun to talk about. > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Mike Archbold <[email protected]> wrote: >> I've sometimes wondered what the Chinese philosophers might contribute >> to AGI. What do you get from him? >> >> Also the Islamic philosophers are noteworthy. I don't know much about >> them, but they were critical in keeping Aristotle going through the >> dark ages, as I understand it. Some of their writings are pretty >> interesting. >> >> Mike A >> >> On 7/31/13, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Emahn, >>> >>> I infer from your email that you're more humanities oriented than tech >>> oriented.. >>> >>> However, I would suggest that if you want to be integrally involved in >>> shaping the future, you'd do well to get a science or engineering >>> background as well. Perhaps a double major in some humanities field and >>> some science/engineering/math field? Even if you don't end up doing >>> anything in science, having a richer understanding of how science and/or >>> engineering work will be quite valuable for you... >>> >>> Beyond that sort of general advice, the main advice I have is just >>> obvious >>> stuff. A diverse background is important. Writing, speaking and >>> quantitative skills are important. Learning basic programming will help >>> you in various ways, even if you don't end up in a career where it's >>> part >>> of your regular duties.... Understanding the basics of how a business >>> works will benefit you; even if you don't end up starting a business... >>> >>> If you study philosophy, definitely go back and read the original works >>> of >>> the great philosophers directly, don't trust the modern summarizers and >>> philosophologists ;) .... There is certainly a lot of depth to be mined >>> in >>> all that old stuff. I'm re-reading various translations/interpretations >>> of >>> the Lao Tzu currently! ... >>> >>> -- Ben G >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:00 AM, Emahn Novid <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Singularity and AGI readers, >>>> >>>> I'll keep this brief since I've been told there have been similar >>>> topics >>>> discussed here. My name is Emahn Novid, I'm 19 years old and a second >>>> year >>>> college student at OCC. I just finished reading Cosmist Manifesto and >>>> was >>>> wondering if anyone could advise me on what area of study/major I >>>> should >>>> pursue to be able to best contribute to the cause. I feel like my >>>> studies >>>> of theism/atheism, philosophy, psychology, politics, and the human >>>> equation >>>> have all lead me here. Any guidance is appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your time. >>>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | >>>> Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&>Your Subscription >>>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>> http://goertzel.org >>> >>> "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> AGI >>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>> RSS Feed: >>> https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae >>> Modify Your Subscription: >>> https://www.listbox.com/member/?& >>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> AGI >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/3701026-786a0853 >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?& >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > -- > -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/11943661-d9279dae > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?& > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
