Hmmm... seems to me that life extension and AI are getting more love
than uploading lately -- there is lots of tech industry $$ and media
going into these too areas lately, not so much into mind uploading...

You may be right that mind uploading is getting a lot of attention in
the transhumanist community currently.  But, the transhumanist
community is not really all that centrally relevant to the advancement
of transhumanism-enabling technologies, is it?   Transhumanists may be
better at seeing what is happening and what is coming than others; but
tech advancement is mostly being driven by people on the boundary btw
the transhumanist community and the mainstream science/tech community,
rather than (so far) by the hardcore transhumanists...

ben


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Alan Grimes <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'd loose my troll credentials if I didn't respond to this.  =|
>
> My position is that I feel that uploading is crowding out all other
> forms of transhumanism, especially ones that I find more interesting
> (read: sexy).  Many of the writings of the several self-proclaimed
> transhumanists basically demand the conclusion that there is an ongoing
> program, that is quickly picking up momentum, to impose a new religious
> doctrine that states that Transhumanism really is nothing other than a
> single, very specific, form of mind uploading and that, after a grace
> period of maybe a week and a half, everyone who does not voluntarily
> upload, will be uploaded anyway but an attempt will be made to conceal
> this fact and the uploadee will be expected to somehow enjoy being in
> this prison that is Just Like Earth(tm).
>
> I'm writing a response to that, currently at 41,000 words. =P
>
> I think I'm going to have to write a post to the other list....
>
> John Rose wrote:
>> 2. Many, or most religions already have had a "transhumanist" element, that
>> is leaving the body in the afterlife for example.
>>
>> Contemporarily created religions naturally will have the "afterlife" more
>> practically spec'd out, for example if you wanna go Linux or Windows, be
>> cross-platform or whatever. The soul might be an RFC and have XML web
>> services interface. We might celebrate the birth of Sergey Brin and create a
>> high-tech digital hell where your mind upload is tortured if you do wrong,
>> like for example being forced to watch Bucky and Pepito reruns while
>> listening to Leonard Cohen for 1000 years.
>>
>> Same old stuff but new technologies...
>
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