Another thought... Back in my early days of consulting ~1970 there was the consummate consultant Stan, with his deep confident voice and ever present pipe, who would make anyone feel at ease. Stan brought me in on several projects to patch up various AI-related technological details. His approach was to work with clients until THEY figured out what the solution was. Of course Stan knew the solution a month earlier, and spent a month or so working with his clients to bring them around to seeing the solution for themselves. This was in stark contrast with my usual approach of directly explaining things to clients in simple and undeniable in-your-face manner. Our success rates proved to be about equal, with Stan's occasional failures coming from running out of time when his clients weren't bright enough to see what Stan had seen for a month, and my occasional failures coming from clients being unwilling to accept the situations they had put themselves in as a step to overcoming those problems. I have always suspected that had we traded clients, we would have failed with the SAME clients.
Years later I learned that Stan's supremely confident manner came with a carefully balanced cocktail of psychiatric meds. He had lost the formula, and the last I heard he was in jail. Has anyone considered this for an AGI - discussing things with you until you figure out the solutions to your own problems? When this worked it was wonderful. Obviously when the above methods fail, there will need to be some more direct method for an AGI to communicate the solutions to people's problems. Steve On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Douglas Solomon via AGI <[email protected]> wrote: > Y'know how we "childproof" a house, all for the infant's best interests, > of course? (I'm thinking capping electrical outlets, for an example.) > Now, take this out to '2 to the nth degree', with (a?) SI interacting with > a You, and ponder Your "Free Will". > > I admit to being rather poor at chess. I don't look THAT Far ahead. > > This reminds a bit of B.F. Skinner's "Beyond Freedom and Dignity." > > On 10/25/2014 01:24 PM, justcamel via AGI wrote: > >> Many Buddhists, Taoists, Hindus, native Americans etc. also know much >> better what would be good for us and our society. Do they approach you and >> tell you what to do? No ... because they also know that the desire to >> improve oneself has to come from within. They are there for you when you >> are ready and they will guide you without forcing you to do anything. I >> don't see how this should be any different with AGI? >> >> There just is no good reason to believe that an AGI system will adopt our >> culture and belief systems ... and they go very deep. >> >> [deletia] > > -- > Doug Solomon > > > > > ------------------------------------------- > AGI > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/10443978-6f4c28ac > Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/ > member/?& > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Full employment can be had with the stoke of a pen. Simply institute a six hour workday. That will easily create enough new jobs to bring back full employment. ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
