Erm? I wrote "Nothing *implemented within consciousness* can measure consciousness."

You ARE consciousness ... you are not IMPLEMENTED within consciousness ... so you can experience and interact with consciousness on a more fundamental level than the implementational level.

You are fundamentally different form an oscilloscope or your physical body ... both of which can _NOT_ experience or interact with consciousness outside of the implementational level as they are objects implemented within consciousness.

I have posted about methods plenty of times ... "meditation" is a broad term. Everybody will find his/her very unique method. People on this mailing list generally feature an IQ of 2-3 STDs above median ... that's more than enough in order to experiment and to find methods that work best.

On 22.10.2015 02:21, Aleks TK wrote:

Nothing implemented within consciousness can measure consciousness.

I think this statement is incorrect, or at the very least highly ambiguous. If there is no way to measure consciousness how can we talk about the concept to begin with? Or did you mean something else?





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