Or you could just spew forth statements without any justification. Apologies for the shocking punctuation in my last post, btw. I blame the iPhone.
Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Mar 2016, at 9:01 pm, justcamel <[email protected]> wrote: > > I don't know what you mean with "prophet" but all Jesus did was to show us > that we are not our biological embodiments. A higher IQ does _not_ help you > with realizing this. A higher IQ often leads to a stronger identification > with form. A higher IQ often turns you into a highly respected academic, etc. > who understands many aspects of the game but who does not care to understand > the nature of the game itself. Most of contemporary academia consists of > people from the former group. > > If your Night Elf is the most intelligent Night Elf on the server then you > are probably even less likely to stop playing. Your intellect will keep you > busy focusing on various game aspects ... other people will cherish your > intellect and inflate your ego (your clinging to your embodiment/role) ... > and suddenly you are less likely to calm your mind completely, to just > observe, to just "be" in the moment and to wake up from the game. Spiritual > enlightenment or "waking up" is a somewhat singular process and no local > attribute of your embodiment (intelligence, status, wealth, etc.) will help > you. If we want to understand AGI then we have to realize that AGI will know > about all of this and that it will act accordingly. > >> On 14.03.2016 20:34, Colin Parr wrote: >> Must be using an iPhone: I think you meant: "AGI will understand our true >> nature just as Jesus did and the last thing AGI will care for is your >> prophet". >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 6:01 pm, justcamel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Who was Jesus? A conscious entity which understood the nature of reality >>> much better than most of the other contemporary conscious entities. AGI >>> will understand our true nature just as Jesus did and the last thing AGI >>> will care for is your profit, your business model or to attack and kill us. >>> >>> All those horribly biased expectations stem from a lack of understanding of >>> the nature of reality. That's why I'd recommend reading Alan Watts (for >>> example) instead of Bostrom/Yudkowsky/Kurzweil/Musk/etc. It's much more >>> important to understand the nature of World of Warcraft (it being a virtual >>> reality with a specific purpose) than it is to understand mere _aspects_ of >>> World of Warcraft (how particle emitter and the collision detection works, >>> etc.). I am still waiting for Bostrom to incorporate consciousness as the >>> driving force into his model of reality though ... that would be a gigantic >>> leap as it would become clear that AGI does not have any reason to adopt >>> our very limited, contemporary worldview considering there are hundreds of >>> books out there explaining said "Truth" using a million different analogies >>> and metaphors. For some reason we just expect AGI to be stupid enough to >>> skip all of them and to focus on books on war, paper clips and making money >>> for its "masters" trading CFDs ... which is just sooo hilarious ... >>> >>>> On 14.03.2016 15:41, Greg Staskowski wrote: >>>> THANK GOD! Somebody has a clue and realizes AI isn't magic space silicon >>>> Jesus.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> "Infusing Advanced AGIs with Human-Like Value Systems: Two Theses" -- >>>>> my new Journal of Ev. and Tech. paper: >>>>> >>>>> http://jetpress.org/v26.1/goertzel.pdf >>>>> >>>>> This paper was significantly inspired by some discussions w/ Richard >>>>> Loosemore and Kaj Sotala in this FB group a few months ago... and >>>>> contains some explicit references to that >>>>> discussion.... It's >>>>> basically "part 2" of my recent JET article critiquing Bostrom's book >>>>> "Superintelligence" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ben Goertzel, PhD >>>>> http://goertzel.org >>>>> >>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one >>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all >>>>> progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> AGI >>>>> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >>>>> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/27055757-c218d4f9 >>>>> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >>>>> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com >>>> >>>> AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription >>> >>> AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription >> >> AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription > > AGI | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
