I just wanted to point out why Bostrom should not be your first choice
if you want to understand the potential behavior of AGI. Sorry for
spewing out statements.
On 14.03.2016 21:26, Colin Parr wrote:
Or you could just spew forth statements without any justification.
Apologies for the shocking punctuation in my last post, btw. I blame
the iPhone.
Sent from my iPhone
On 14 Mar 2016, at 9:01 pm, justcamel <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I don't know what you mean with "prophet" but all Jesus did was to
show us that we are not our biological embodiments. A higher IQ does
_not_ help you with realizing this. A higher IQ often leads to a
stronger identification with form. A higher IQ often turns you into a
highly respected academic, etc. who understands many aspects of the
game but who does not care to understand the nature of the game
itself. Most of contemporary academia consists of people from the
former group.
If your Night Elf is the most intelligent Night Elf on the server
then you are probably even less likely to stop playing. Your
intellect will keep you busy focusing on various game aspects ...
other people will cherish your intellect and inflate your ego (your
clinging to your embodiment/role) ... and suddenly you are less
likely to calm your mind completely, to just observe, to just "be" in
the moment and to wake up from the game. Spiritual enlightenment or
"waking up" is a somewhat singular process and no local attribute of
your embodiment (intelligence, status, wealth, etc.) will help you.
If we want to understand AGI then we have to realize that AGI will
know about all of this and that it will act accordingly.
On 14.03.2016 20:34, Colin Parr wrote:
Must be using an iPhone: I think you meant: "AGI will understand our
true nature just as Jesus did and the last thing AGI will care for
is your prophet".
Sent from my iPhone
On 14 Mar 2016, at 6:01 pm, justcamel <[email protected]> wrote:
Who was Jesus? A conscious entity which understood the nature of
reality much better than most of the other contemporary conscious
entities. AGI will understand our true nature just as Jesus did
and the last thing AGI will care for is your profit, your business
model or to attack and kill us.
All those horribly biased expectations stem from a lack of
understanding of the nature of reality. That's why I'd recommend
reading Alan Watts (for example) instead of
Bostrom/Yudkowsky/Kurzweil/Musk/etc. It's much more important to
understand the nature of World of Warcraft (it being a virtual
reality with a specific purpose) than it is to understand mere
_aspects_ of World of Warcraft (how particle emitter and the
collision detection works, etc.). I am still waiting for Bostrom to
incorporate consciousness as the driving force into his model of
reality though ... that would be a gigantic leap as it would become
clear that AGI does not have any reason to adopt our very limited,
contemporary worldview considering there are hundreds of books out
there explaining said "Truth" using a million different analogies
and metaphors. For some reason we just expect AGI to be stupid
enough to skip all of them and to focus on books on war, paper
clips and making money for its "masters" trading CFDs ... which is
just sooo hilarious ...
On 14.03.2016 15:41, Greg Staskowski wrote:
THANK GOD! Somebody has a clue and realizes AI isn't magic space
silicon Jesus..
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]>
wrote:
"Infusing Advanced AGIs with Human-Like Value Systems: Two
Theses" --
my new Journal of Ev. and Tech. paper:
http://jetpress.org/v26.1/goertzel.pdf
This paper was significantly inspired by some discussions w/
Richard
Loosemore and Kaj Sotala in this FB group a few months ago... and
contains some explicit references to that discussion.... It's
basically "part 2" of my recent JET article critiquing
Bostrom's book
"Superintelligence"
--
Ben Goertzel, PhD
http://goertzel.org
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the
unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw
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