Yes, that is what I am aiming towards here, so do we have any Top-Level goals 
of this type, or are most all of these things merely signals, and the goal 
creation is at another level, and how do we deifn the top level goals.

James

Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To allow that somewhere in the 
Himalayas, someone may be able,
> with years of training, to lessen the urgency of hunger and
> pain,

An understatement: **I** can dramatically lessen the urgency of hunger
and pain.

What the right sort of training can do is to teach you to come very
close to not attending to them at all...

But I bet these gurus are not stopping the "pain" signals from
propagating from body to brain; they are likely "just" radically
altering the neural interpretation of these signals...

-- Ben

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