> > In other words, maybe what you think needs to be gotten from grounding
> > in a nonlinguistic domain, could somehow be gotten indirectly via grounding
> > in masses of text?
> >
> > I am not confident this is feasible, nor that it isn't ... and it's
> > not the approach
> > I'm following ... but I'm uncomfortable dismissing it out of hand...
>
> *nods* I'm comfortable dismissing it out of hand, for several reasons,
> not least of which is that we humans do not and cannot do anything
> remotely resembling what you're proposing.

I don't assume that all successful AGI's must be humanlike...

> At the end of the day, the Internet just doesn't contain most of the
> needed information. Consider the question of whether it's possible to
> learn about water flowing downhill, from Internet text alone. From
> Google (example not original to me, though I forget who first ran this
> test):
>
> Results 1 - 10 of about 864 for "water flowing downhill"
> Results 1 - 10 of about 2,130 for "water flowing uphill"
>
> The prosecution rests :)

Google is not an AGI, so I have no idea why you think this proves
anything about AGI ...

I strongly suspect there is enough information in the
text online for an AGI to learn that water flows downhill in most
circumstances, without having explicit grounding...

-- Ben

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