"water flows downhill" site:wikipedia.org -- 4 results "water flows uphill" site:wikipedia.org -- 2 results
BUT, both of the latter 2 results are within user talk pages, not regular wikipedia entries... whereas all of the former 4 results are on regular wikipedia entries I'm not saying one can use wikipedia as the knowledge base for an AGI, it's clearly not big enough, but I think this certainly defuses your example a bit obviously, defusing more complex examples would require more work -- many useful pieces of info exist only implicitly among various Web pages rather than on a single Web page... -- ben g On Feb 17, 2008 1:52 PM, Russell Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 17, 2008 6:32 PM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't assume that all successful AGI's must be humanlike... > > Neither do I - on the contrary, I think a humanlike AGI isn't going to > happen, in the same way that we never did achieve birdlike flight. > > But the only reason we have for believing ill-posed problems (i.e. > nearly all the problems presented by the real world) to be solvable at > all is that humans (in some cases) provide an existence proof. Where a > problem is ill-posed, and humans can't come close to solving it, and > we can't point to a specific human limit that would enable us to solve > it if overcome, then the reasonable default conclusion is that it's > not solvable. > > > Google is not an AGI, so I have no idea why you think this proves > > anything about AGI ... > > It doesn't. It does, however, prove something about the contents of > the Web, and constitutes a reason... > > > I strongly suspect there is enough information in the > > text online for an AGI to learn that water flows downhill in most > > circumstances, without having explicit grounding... > > ...for disagreeing with you on this point. > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC Director of Research, SIAI [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If men cease to believe that they will one day become gods then they will surely become worms." -- Henry Miller ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=95818715-a78a9b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
