On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Dr. Matthias Heger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't understand your point fully. Perhaps my English is too bad. > I have had the impression, that pei wang thought that gödels theorem and the > halting problem do not apply for human beings because they are open systems. > > > Perhaps he is right but not because of the open system issue but because it > is not clear whether the universe can really be modeled as a turing machine. > I only wanted to clarify this point and did not claim to have found > "something new". >
My complaint was merely about what I heard as assumption that many people here believe that AGI must be able to learn to start solving halting problems. Your below assertion does have many problems (think of the universe as a finite state machine, or as a fixed Turing machine running forward, or in other way limited in information): On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Dr. Matthias Heger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, with Goedel, the whole universe cannot generate a set of statements > about itself which are both complete and without any contradictions. > And therefore a machine which is part of the universe cannot have this > ability too. > -- Vladimir Nesov [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: http://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=101455710-f059c4 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
