Programming definitely feels like an art to me - I get the same feelings as
when I am painting. I always wondered why.

On the phylosophical side in general technology is the ability of humans to
adapt the environment to themselves instead of the opposite - adapting to
the environment. The environment acts on us and we act on it - we absorb
information from it and we change it while it changes us.

When we want to step further and create an AGI I think we want to
externalize the very ability to create technology - we want the environment
to start adapting to us by itself, spontaneously by gaining our goals.

Vale



On 9/4/08, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Will:You can't create a program out of thin air. So you have to have some
> sort of program to start with
>
> Not out of thin air.Out of a general instruction and desire[s]/emotion[s].
> "Write me a program that will contradict every statement made to it." "Write
> me a single program that will allow me to write video/multimedia
> articles/journalism fast and simply." That's what you actually DO. You start
> with v. general briefs rather than any detailed list of instructions, and
> fill them  in as you go along, in an ad hoc, improvisational way -
> manifestly *creating* rather than *following* organized structures of
> behaviour in an initially disorganized way.
>
> Do you honestly think that you write programs in a programmed way? That
> it's not an *art* pace Matt, full of hesitation, halts, meandering, twists
> and turns, dead ends, detours etc?  If "you have to have some sort of
> program to start with", how come there is no sign  of that being true, in
> the creative process of programmers actually writing programs?
>
> Do you think that there's a program for improvising on a piano [or other
> form of keyboard]?  That's what AGI's are supposed to do - improvise. So
> create one that can. Like you. And every other living creature.
>
>
>



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