It has been explained many times to Tintner that even though computer hardware works with a particular set of primitive operations running in sequence, "a hardwired set of primitive logical operations operating in sequence" is NOT the theory of intelligence that any AGI researchers are proposing (to my knowledge). A computer is just a system for holding a theory of intelligence which does not look like those primitives (at least not since the view that "intelligence consists of simple interpretations of atomic tokens representing physical objects in small numbers of relationships with other such tokens" was given up decades ago as insufficient). As an example, the representational mechansms in Novamente and the dynamics of the mind agents that operate on them are probably better thought of as churning masses of probability relationships with varying and often non-specific semantic interpretations than Tintner's narrow view of what a computer is -- although I do not yet understand Novamente in detail. He has to ignore all such efforts, though, because if he paid attention he would have to stop saying that NONE of us understand ANYTHING about how REAL intelligence is actually based on line drawings, or keyboards, or other childish notions. Though he's in my killfile I do see his posts when others take the bait. So Mike, please try to finally understand this: AGI researchers do not think of intelligence as what you think of as a computer program -- some rigid sequence of logical operations programmed by a designer to mimic intelligent behavior. We know it is deeper than that. This has been clear to just about everybody for many many years. By engaging the field at such a level you do nothing worthwhile.
> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:38:59 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [agi] A NewMetaphor for Intelligence - the > Computer/Organiser> > 2008/9/6 Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> > Will,> >> > > Yes, humans are manifestly a RADICALLY different machine paradigm- if you> > > care to stand back and look at the big picture.> >> > Employ a machine of > any kind and in general, you know what you're getting -> > some glitches > (esp. with complex programs) etc sure - but basically, in> > general, it will > do its job.> > What exactly is a desktop computers job? ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=111637683-c8fa51 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
