Wannabe, If you read my post of Fri 11/21/2008 8:02 PM in this thread, you will see that I said the sense of oneness with the external world many of us feel may just be sensory experience and perception of the external world, uninterrupted by thoughts of oneself or our brain's chatbot.
This would tend to agree with what you say in your post below. Ed Porter -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 2:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [agi] A paper that actually does solve the problem of consciousness You guys and your "experiments". Well the whole experience of "oneness" could also just be the disruption of the orientation association cortex. Jill Bolte Taylor, a neuroscientist, describes this in her book, _My Stroke of Insight_. She had a stroke that affected much of her left hemisphere, including this area that creates awareness of personal boundaries. So she had the whole feeling of oneness with the universe. And also now that she has recovered she is able to shift her consciousness more to her right brain and get back to it. She has a TED talk about it: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_in sight.html andi Quoting Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ben, > > "Entheogens!" > > What a great word/euphemism. > > Is it pronounced like "Inns" (where travelers sleep) + "Theo" (short for > "Theodore") + "gins"(a subset of liquors I normally avoid like the plague, > except in the occasional summer gin and tonic with lime)? > > What is the respective emphasis given to each of these three parts in the > proper pronunciations. > > It is a word that would be deeply appreciated by many at my local Unitarian > Church. > > Ed Porter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [agi] A paper that actually does solve the problem of > consciousness > >> When I was in college and LSD was the rage, one of the main goals of the >> heavy duty heads was "ego loss" which was to achieve a sense of cosmic >> oneness with all of the universe. It was commonly stated that 1000 >> micrograms was the ticket to "ego loss." I never went there. Nor have I >> ever achieved cosmic oneness through meditation, although I have achieved >> temporary (say fifteen or thirty seconds) feeling of deep peaceful bliss. >> >> Perhaps you have been more brave (acid wise) or much lucky or disciplined >> meditation wise, and have achieve a seen of oneness with the cosmic >> consciousness. If so, I tip my hat (and Colbert wag of the finger) to > you. > > Not a great topic for public mailing list discussion but ... uh ... yah .. > > But it's not really so much about the dosage ... entheogens are tools > and it's all about what you do with them ;-) > > ben > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=120640061-aded06 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
