Eric,
If, as your post below implies, you have experienced "ego loss," --- please tell me --- how, if at all, was it different than the sense of oneness with the surround world that I described in my post of Fri 11/21/2008 8:02 PM which started this named thread. That is, how was it different than merely having, for an extended period of time, a oneness with sensual experience of the computational richness of external reality around (or perhaps of just ones breathing and feelings it engenders) --- a oneness uninterrupted by awareness of oneself as a something separate from such sensations or by the chattering of the chatbot most of us have inside our heads --- other than for the standard effects on sensations and emotions one would routinely associate with being entheogenned. Ed Porter -----Original Message----- From: Eric Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 11:40 AM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] A paper that actually does solve the problem of consciousness Hey, ego loss is attendant with even modest doses of LSD or psilocybin. At ~ 700 mics I found that effect to be very much background On 11/21/08, Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben, > > "Entheogens!" > > What a great word/euphemism. > > Is it pronounced like "Inns" (where travelers sleep) + "Theo" (short for > "Theodore") + "gins"(a subset of liquors I normally avoid like the plague, > except in the occasional summer gin and tonic with lime)? > > What is the respective emphasis given to each of these three parts in the > proper pronunciations. > > It is a word that would be deeply appreciated by many at my local Unitarian > Church. > > Ed Porter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Goertzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:11 PM > To: agi@v2.listbox.com > Subject: Re: [agi] A paper that actually does solve the problem of > consciousness > >> When I was in college and LSD was the rage, one of the main goals of the >> heavy duty heads was "ego loss" which was to achieve a sense of cosmic >> oneness with all of the universe. It was commonly stated that 1000 >> micrograms was the ticket to "ego loss." I never went there. Nor have I >> ever achieved cosmic oneness through meditation, although I have achieved >> temporary (say fifteen or thirty seconds) feeling of deep peaceful bliss. >> >> Perhaps you have been more brave (acid wise) or much lucky or disciplined >> meditation wise, and have achieve a seen of oneness with the cosmic >> consciousness. If so, I tip my hat (and Colbert wag of the finger) to > you. > > Not a great topic for public mailing list discussion but ... uh ... yah .. > > But it's not really so much about the dosage ... entheogens are tools > and it's all about what you do with them ;-) > > ben > > > ------------------------------------------- > agi > Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now > RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ > Modify Your Subscription: > https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; > Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=120640061-aded06 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
