Top posted here: Using your bricks to construct something, you have to construct it within constraints. Constraints is the key word. Whatever "bricks" you are using they have their own limiting properties. You CANNOT build anything anyway you please. Just by defining "bricks" you are already applying rationalist hand tying due to the fact that even your abstract "bricks" have a limiting rationalist inducing structure... Maybe "bricks" are too rationalist, I want to use "gloops" to build creative things that are impossible to build with bricks.
John > From: Mike Tintner [mailto:tint...@blueyonder.co.uk] > > P.S. To put the distinction in a really simple easy to visualise > (though > *not* formal) form: > > rationality and creativity can be seen as reasoning about how to put > bricks > together - (from the metaphorical bricks of an argument to the literal > bricks of a building) > > with rationality, you reason according to predetermined blueprints (or > programs) of buildings - you infer that if this is a building in such > and > such a style, then this brick will have to go here and that brick will > have > to go there - everything follows. The bricks have to go together in > certain > ways. The links in any chain or structure of logical reasoning are > rigid. > > with creativity, you reason *without* precise blueprints - you can > put > bricks together in any way you like, subject to the constraints that > they > must connect with and support each other. - and you start with only a > rough idea, at best, of the end result/ building you want. ("Build me > a > skyscraper that's radically different from anything ever built"), > > rationality in any given situation and with any given, rational > problem, can > have only one result.Convergent construction. > > creativity in any given situation and with any creative, non-rational > problem, can have an infinity of results. Divergent construction. > > Spot the difference? > > Rationality says bricks build brick buildings. It follows. > > Creativity says puh-lease, how boring. It may be rational and necessary > on > one level, but it's not necessary at all on a deeper level With a > possible > infinity of ways to put bricks together, we can always build something > radically different. > > http://www.cpluv.com/www/medias/Christophe/Christophe_4661b649bdc87.jpg > > (On the contrary, Pei, you can't get more narrow-minded than rational > thinking. That's its strength and its weakness). > > You can't arrive at brick art or any art or any creative work or even > the > simplest form of everyday creativity by rationality/logic/deduction, > induction , abduction, transduction et al. (What's the logical solution > to > freeing up bank lending right now? Or seducing that woman over there? > Think > about it.) > > AGI is about creativity. Building without blueprints. (Or "hidden > structures"). Just rough ideas and outlines. > > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=123753653-47f84b Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
