Ben Goertzel wrote:
Goodness. I have to tell you, Colin, your style of discourse just SOUNDS so insane and off-base, it requires constant self-control on my part to look past that and focus on any interesting ideas that may exist amidst all the peculiarity!! And if **I** react that way, others must react that way more strongly, because I'm rather tolerant of wackiness of most sorts... So, I must suggest that if you want folks to take your ideas seriously, you should try to find different ways of expressing them... ben

See the recent post and current neuroscience experimentation.

eg Milstein, J. N. and Koch, C. (2008). Dynamic moment analysis of the extracellular electric field of a biologically realistic spiking neuron. Neural Computation, 20(8), 2070-84.

There's a long way to go.... and of course dual aspect science has to be established to make any sense of it at all.

I can't help that it's new, confronting and awkward. I didn't make it up. I just looked. This area has been problematic for a reason. That reason is /us/ (scientists, I mean).

Be very careful in using the word 'extra-sensory'. and 'wacky'. It implies some kind of imagined space-cadet quackery and fringe science.

If a quite clear (but merely relatively unexplored) physical phenomenon enacted at the boundary of the atoms in brain material and space can be held accountable for a phsyically testable outcome - then the word 'extra' will be invalid. There will be 6 basic 'senses'. No magic, just physics. I am as dry as an emprically informed scientist can get. You can't deliver any evidence at all that the processes I am investigating are invalid. Until they are properly investigated I'd prefer to leave these words out of the discourse - and I'll refrain from the use of any similar words in reference to the heartfelt beliefs of others in this list.

cheers
colin











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