On Sun, 19 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > My main motivation - we've literally spent the last few months on shiny > > bugs, ironed many out, and I'm just paranoid about going through such > > a thing again. It's *really* good to run through some cycles and > > say "yep, it all works" before you trust Pending and CFJing. (That's > > what AP were meant to be, the temporary "we know it works" kludge while > > we were testing shinies - my shinies proposal basically finishes that > > phase off by repealing AP). > > > > I'm not sure shinies are a good or fair starting point. I just go a > bunch of money, partly because I invested in a stamp, but partly > because I happened to be around and able to respond quickly to the > situation before money ran out.
Not arguing against a shiny reset - I think the current holdings are all over the place. Main thing is they exist and can kickstart things quickly. > Also, keeping shinies around as a way to pay for things might > discourage people from investing in the new economy, because what's > the point in getting paper if you can do everything it can more > cheaply with shinies? The proto currently keeps AP which is the biggest brake of all. > Another random late night thought: why not give everyone a free piece > of unoccupied land in the welcome package? It would give them a way to > start participating in the new economy, rather than having to wait to > win an auction. I think we should start with competitive gameplay to get people bought in. A massive auction to drain current shinies, selling pretty much enough land to everyone who participates gets one. If you hand one thing to everyone for free, people will shrug/ignore and not value it. If you have slow-paced auctions (like current land), then a few will get lucky and things will then stagnate. But hold a huge buy-in auction? With shinies to go away if not used in the auction? That's actual gameplay and people are far more likely to jump in and then value their purchases.