Yes, weight is a factor. However, limos do not have soft suspensions. In
fact, the spring rates would surprise you. They are actually very truck
like. If you want to experience the difference that wheelbase makes, along
with a bit of weight, try driving a Mini, then climb into a Mini Clubman,
then a Mini Countryman (when it becomes available). The basic suspensions at
various option levels are virtually the same, like the GTV6/Milano
comparison. The prime difference is wheelbase. And, yes, you can make
anything stiff or soft using spring rates and shock valves. All things being
equal, the longer the softer.

Ciao,
Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Shorey [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:23 AM
To: 'Ben Ament'; 'ira kaufman'
Cc: 'alfa'
Subject: RE: [alfa] GTV-6 Suspension questions


>Wheelbase has a very large effect on ride. It is much of the reason 
>that a limo rides softer than a Mini. Those are the extremes. The GTV6 
>and Milano are in the middle of the extremes, but the fact is that 
>wheelbase does affect ride. Longer = softer, shorter = harsher. The 
>shorter wheelbase will also give sharper handling.

I'd love to have a suspension expert weigh in on this.

In my opinion, weight has more effect on ride, and wheelbase has more effect
on handling.  Limos give a cushy ride because they have soft suspensions and
tons of weight.  You can make a limo ride harshly if you want to.

The Milano weighs more than the GTV6 by a couple hundred pounds.  Should be
easy enough for Bruce to load a couple of people into his GTV6 and see if
the ride improves.

bs
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