Mind you I do wonder why companies bother giving us Earbuds, the cardboard packing of the recorder etc is probably worth more <smile>.
> On 10 Apr 2018, at 2:46 am, Robin Frost <robin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > Wow I've never gotten earbuds with any Olympus I've ever bought in the > States. How interesting. > Take good care. > Robin > > > -----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 10:39 PM > To: all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus LS-P4 Recorder > > I suppose Olympus take the view that most of their users can see the > level meters so they do know that the audio is being heard by the > microphones and then the record est would know the audio was being > recorded when the elapsed and remaining times were displayed on the screen. > > I think the US models of Olympus recorders come supplied with Earbuds or > at least they did. > > The last 2 Olympus recorders I bought locally and they didn't really > come with much in the way ofr accessories and certainly didn't come with > earbuds. > > > > On 9/04/2018 12:33 PM, Hamit Campos wrote: >> Yeah that's all true. I actually have no true idea why they are there. I do >> know some people like them though. Like I said Neal does. Personally my self >> though I do if the machine speaks. but like you said in the case of the >> zooms well they don't make music, they don't talk or beap so why bother. >> What's more the H6 you know it's on due to the mikes being open. But I'm >> sure you don't hear this on the builtin. Otherwize the feed back will drive >> ya batty. Trust me I know from instances with the PTR 1 and 2. Also from >> opening the mikes on the LS 14 with the recorder hooked to the soundlink >> mini. But yeah I don't really listen to stuff on the built in. But just was >> giving ya a Zoom statement from 1 of their vids. That's at least why they >> said they do it. Just so you can be sure something captured. But yeah well >> in the case of the Olympus recorders I've had and on the LS-14 I can say meh >> I wouldn't really use that confidence speaker for serious listening. Yeah >> the VR Stream speaker ain't all that good either. Plextalk always did >> better. But then my ears got too use to Bose. lol. Na seriously last year >> when I brought out the PTR 1 again and listened to something on it I was >> like dude what the hell? This little speaker sucks. I ccan't believe I once >> loved that quality. This ain't no Bose. Ah now I remember what I listened >> to. I burned Neal's LS-100 podcast to a CD and listened to my favorite part. >> The Rode NT1-A demos. None of the sole none of that movie center channal >> presenze that makes it sound like Neal's right with ya and none of the epic >> chrispness came threw the PTR1. lol. >> >> >> On 4/8/2018 9:04 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Consider this. >>> >>> How could anyone possibly Gage the quality of a recording through small >>> speakers that aren't even designed to sound any good rather they just >>> appear to be put into a recorder as an afterthought. >>> >>> Good recorders in the past have not necessarily had any speakers in them at >>> all and I can give perfect examples of this. >>> >>> The Sony Wmd-6 professional cassette walkman. >>> >>> The Sony MZR-900 Minidisc recorder. >>> >>> The Sony PCM-D50 recorder. >>> >>> The above machines sold not because of any internal speaker but because >>> they were good quality recorders. >>> >>> Another point, do you expect to be able to judge how good a music file >>> sounds just through listening to the internal speaker of your phone? Coruse >>> not. >>> >>> The Victor Reader Stream may I remind you doesn't even come with a good >>> quality sound from its internal speaker. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/04/2018 10:59 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >>>> Ah look at what Zoom calls the speaker. It's called a confidence speaker. >>>> So for the sighted I guess it's just to see how the sound came out. Though >>>> not in a real good way. For us the blind it helpes in that you can hear >>>> something thus know the thing is even on. Now I agree with ya that you >>>> should at least have some ear buds. But some people and Neal apparently is >>>> 1 don't like doing that. Well Neal also uses those in ear mikes Larry >>>> Scutchann did. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4/8/2018 6:20 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>> The speaker of a recorder to me at least isn't all that important as I >>>>> always carry around a pair of headphones and I often wonder why >>>>> manufacturers bother to build speakers into recorders in the first place, >>>>> after all I buy the recorder to record with. >>>>> >>>>> One thing I do like with the LS-P4 is the ability to output sound through >>>>> a Bluetooth speaker or headset. >>>>> >>>>> Some of the best speakers I've heard in recorders go to the Olympus >>>>> LS-100 and the Zoom H6. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/04/2018 2:18 AM, Rick Alfaro wrote: >>>>>> Hi. I'm wondering how the speaker sounds on this model. I currently own >>>>>> the dm720 and also had the lsp2 for a short time which I returned. The >>>>>> one thing I really don't like on many of the Olympus recorders is that >>>>>> they use really tiny and tinny sounding speakers with little volume. I >>>>>> think they can and should do better. How would you describe the sound >>>>>> characteristics of the builtin speaker of the lsp4? Amazon currently has >>>>>> this model for $180 with free prime shipping. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dane >>>>>> Trethowan >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 11:39 AM >>>>>> To: all-audio@groups.io >>>>>> Subject: [all-audio] Olympus LS-P4 Recorder >>>>>> >>>>>> Neal's talking about the LS-P2 isn't he and not the P4? I've no idea how >>>>>> similar or different these machines are. >>>>>> >>>>>> I did think about purchasing the LS-P2 as Ferguson Enterprises had it on >>>>>> sale. >>>>>> >>>>>> I originally wanted to purchase a LS-14 but that model is now >>>>>> discontinued as we all know. >>>>>> >>>>>> A friend advised me of a local Olympus dealer who he thought had the >>>>>> LS-14 in stock as it was listed on the web page. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately that web page listing was out of date so the dealer asked >>>>>> me if I'd like to purchase the LS-P4 which - according to Olympus >>>>>> Australia - is the replacement model for the LS-14. >>>>>> >>>>>> One can only hope that there are improvements at the very least with the >>>>>> LS-P4 over the LS-p2. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing I did notice which is interesting, if you have a Bluetooth >>>>>> speaker connected to the LS-P4 and you have the recorder set to record >>>>>> using FLAC then the recorder will change to PCM mode for recording for >>>>>> whatever reason but no need to panic as the LS-P4 does indeed warn you >>>>>> that the mode has changed when you go into "Record Standby" mode. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/04/2018 12:19 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >>>>>>> Yeah and basically that's what Neal said it's good fore. It's supposed >>>>>>> to be good for music too by how it's sold but Neal dissagreed with that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/4/2018 11:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>>>> I’ve not heard Neal’s review on the P2 as yet so I’m none the wiser >>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>> I only plan to use this recorder for general use so for that it will >>>>>>>> do just fine particularly given the size of the recorder and the fact >>>>>>>> it takes 1 AAA type battery. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 5 Apr 2018, at 1:07 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I just grabbed it. Hmmmm this has a bit of a bigger sound then the >>>>>>>>> P2. But then again you didn't shut the middle Omni off right? Neal >>>>>>>>> for what ever reason just hates that omni. It's kinda funny actually >>>>>>>>> how it gets under his skin. Meh maybe he's right. an omni between 2 >>>>>>>>> cardioids may not be a good idea. I'd have to get an H5 at least 3 >>>>>>>>> real seperate mikes, and try it for reals. Cause they are too little >>>>>>>>> even on the 14 and too near to each other to really see what having >>>>>>>>> that omni there actually does bad. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/4/2018 10:57 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Here’s a link to the second recording I’ve made thus far with the >>>>>>>>>> Olympus LS-p4 and that’s not bad going given I’ve only had the >>>>>>>>>> recorder for half an hour and I stopped for a lunch break <smile> >>>>>>>>>> I’d like to make it clear that there’s nothing special about this >>>>>>>>>> recording and no precautions were taken. >>>>>>>>>> The Olympus was in auto level mode and I didn’t fit a windscreen so >>>>>>>>>> you’ll find that out for yourself I’m sure. >>>>>>>>>> I explain what I’ve found out about the recorder thus far so enjoy >>>>>>>>>> or not as the case may be. >>>>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nxi4lpbjy4fbf9i/180406_0002.flac?dl=0 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > > ********** > "A dog is a good thing to have around a house and so is a fence" > ********** > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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