Hi Dane and all,

        There is, if I may say so, a deep problem with Android accessibility, 
in my view. First, Google is obviously running this as a boxchecking exercise, 
and that lack of interest spreads throughout all Android products. There are, 
of course, devices which are better than others in accessibility, but even the 
best aren't as accessible as they could be, and there are some which are 
absolutely hopeless. I suspect, as I think you do, that some of the media 
players will be the hopeless ones. One of the saddest accessibility stories in 
the past thirty years, for the blind and deafblind at least, has been Android. 
There was a huge amount of potential and it has been wasted. The reasons for 
the waste are debatable, the fact of the waste is, I think, not debatable at 
all. Things could have been done much better, they weren't.
Aman
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 7:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Portable media players with android.

Yep a fair suggestion.
Of course all this depends on how accessible the portable Android media player 
is or can be made to be which is the 40 million dollar question but to me to be 
perfectly honest its all a lot of mucking around and for what?
I mentioned I have a Sony xPeria X-Performance, they're old hack as far as 
phones go now so why not pick yourself up one of these for a bargain price if 
you still can and.. well.. work from there.
Yep, add the Bluetooth control you're talking about, have full accessibility 
with your choice of music player, stream to other devices in your house along 
with Bluetooth speakers, enjoy high quality sound through your headphones, 
amazing battery life etc.
>From what I've seen thus far of portable Android music players accessibility 
>is just a pure waste of time in the main.
Always happy to be proved wrong of course.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Aman Singer
Sent: Friday, 8 June 2018 9:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Portable media players with android.

Hi,

        I realize this is perilously close to heresy, but I detest touch 
screens and sympathise with any desire for physical buttons. If I may ask, 
though, why not use a Bluetooth remote which has such buttons? See, just for 
example https://satechi.net/products/satechi-bluetooth-multi-media-remote
        You can get the best, more or less, of both worlds, physical buttons 
and a generally available, non-premium-priced, Android media player. As for the 
audio quality, I'm not the person to talk about that but it does seem to be 
possible to plug a USB DAC into some Android devices.
HTH,
Aman

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anders 
Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 5:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Portable media players with android.

Hi!
Yes that’s a truth for sure.
I was just thinking of if there were other functions that the phone didn’t have.
For example physical buttons for play and stop and such, even though its not 
hard to stop and play from the touch screen.
Also i am a bit dissapointed about the audio from the nokia 8 i have.
Its good via bluetooth but the 3.5 mm jack could have been better on such a 
device.
THe Iphone SE i have is far better there in my opinion.
/A













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