Okay, tell me how to change the visualization; maybe that's what's messing everything up! I must reiterate that as far as changing the skin selection, there is no "changing it" not as far as I see; it just stays the same, although there _must_ be a way of changing it to classic skin; must be something that's hidden from me! As for Jaws, am running 2024 (which I had running with the other Winamp; never a problem before! I'd hate to think that it's something with my computer; these computer guys want an arm and a leg just to come and look at it! There is _no place_ here in town where I could even carry it to; even if there were, I don't know how I'd get it there! Tom Kaufman
-----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 4:12 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i did a custom install and did not install any visualization at all. it works the same as always. i bet your problem is along the visualization rout. On 2/17/2024 1:18 PM, JM Casey wrote: > . > > The truth is that whoever is working on the winamp programme now is probably > a very small development team, and it isn't necessarily a priority project > for whoever now runs winamp.com as a whole. So on the page it says 5.91 > still, but that isn't the version that's there anymore. I do think not > putting the version number in the filename of the installer exe is silly, but > whether you have 5.91 or 5.92, it'll likely make little or no difference to > you. You saw the changes I posted earlier. There was no interface overhaul, > and there never really has been -- the only reason winamp is really still > around is that people like the look of the thing, and now it's a nostalgia > thing for people apparently (not those of us who always used it and never saw > any huge reason to stop of course), so theyr'e not going to change the > appearance of it so long as they keep the desktop programme around. > As for the annoying bar, I still can't tell you what it is from your > description, but there's likely a way to be rid of it if you don't like it. I > think you'll have to play around with the settings; do some experiments and > see what you come up with. > As for the JAWS commands not working, yes, it could have something to do with > the interface not being as expected, and so the scripts that execute the > commands aren't finding what is expected to be there. Again, go into your > settings and see what you find. You might particularly want to look at the > skins area of the tree view. I have visualisations set to off, no spectrum > analyser, etc. Not sure if that would make a difference or not -- I used to > live with a sighted person and some of that stuff was on, but winamp still > seemed to work as I expected it to. Still, maybe you can try messing with it > and see. > Another thing to consider is JAWS itself. DO you have an older version of > JAWS on your computer? Perhaps try running that, and see if the scripts work > the way they're supposed to there. > > > -----Original Message----- > From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom > Kaufman > Sent: February 16, 2024 10:06 PM > To:all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem > > Yeah...a little tricky; it kind of leads you to believe that you're gonna get > 5.91 (and you don't know until you start to install) that it is, in fact, > 5.92; may be as Casey is saying "not really any difference" probably just a > coincidence that I'm seeing the change; furthermore, I guess that the way > it's appearing to me is something that I'm just "stuck with" it's just > frustrating when some of those commands that _always_ worked for me; now it's > hit-and-miss!" I sometimes can alt-tab away; then alt-tab back to Winamp and > it'll go ahead and work as supposed to! But unless someone can tell me of a > good "fix" guess I'm just stuck with limping along with it as it is! > Tom Kaufman > > -----Original Message----- > From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 8:50 PM To:all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem > > Hey Dennis. > It says 5.91 on the page there, but it is in fact the next version that one > downloads when one clicks on it. The filename is exactly the same too, so the > only way to check is to open the archive, but yes, I have verified it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis > Sent: February 16, 2024 8:00 PM > To:all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem > > ok go to > > https://player.winamp.com/trending > > arrow down the page until you see > > If you feel a bit nostalgic you can > download > the windows version 5.91. > > the download is the link to download 5.91. > > On 2/16/2024 5:07 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >> Okay Dennis...tell me again _exactly_ how to get this 5.91? Best I can >> tell, the oldest it had is 5.92! >> Tom Kaufman >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis >> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 6:04 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >> >> yes because i got 5.91. >> >> On 2/16/2024 4:56 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>> Okay...I shut Jaws down...although I've had an occasion to restart the >>> computer recently, thus, Jaws would have shut down then as well! So let's >>> try some of these again; am pretty sure it told me that Winamp was in >>> "Classic mode"...aw...but it don't look like "classic" to me! I thought >>> Dennis said I could get 5.91 (I think that's what I really was supposed to >>> get; aw...but it's not on that Winamp page; not as far as I can tell! >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey >>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:41PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> Hey. >>> >>> Never used that keystroke either. But it appears to be working here. That >>> is a JAWS thing though, not a winamp keystroke. >>> >>> The length will show in the playlist editor still though even if that thing >>> doesn't work. >>> >>> After a test, it appears that alt-r function you are talking about is also >>> a little goodie Freedom Scientific threw in. So, it sounds like your jaws >>> winamp commands aren't working right now, or at least some of them. When >>> was the last time you restarted jaws? >>> >>> You did set it to classic, right? >>> >>> That bar thing that you mentioned, I don't know what it is, but it's >>> probably something that was there in older versions, too, and which got >>> turned off. I really don't think they changed the look of Winamp at all. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>> Kaufman >>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:32 PM >>> To:all-audio@groups.io >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> >>> >>> Okay...apparently (with this newer Winamp) one can no longer get the length >>> of a track; used to be, you could do Insert-control-T (at least I think I'm >>> right) and it'd tell you how long the file is; it's not working >>> now...unless you do it differently! >>> >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>> Kaufman >>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:20 PM >>> >>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> >>> >>> Well there's this long narrow bar across the screen for one thing; another >>> thing: although it does say that I can jump to the end of the track with >>> alt-R, it doesn't work; instead, it says I _must_ be inside the Winamp main >>> window or playlist editor (which I believe I am) but whenever I do alt-R, >>> that's the message I get! I think that that 5.9.1 is what I was supposed >>> to get, but don't think it's listed in my downloads! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM >>> Casey >>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:15 PM >>> >>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> >>> >>> How does it look different? I can't see anything and the interface seems >>> exactly the same as it always has been using the classic mode. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>> Kaufman >>> >>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:12 PM >>> >>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> >>> >>> Well it looks different; I have it set to classic skins, but this doesn't >>> look like my old Winamp; at least it seems to be doing what it's supposed >>> to do; I can advance through the file and probably other things! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM >>> Casey >>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:07 PM >>> >>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> >>> >>> No, you got the right one. There's only the latest one there. >>> >>> DO you use the library? I don't. But I'd still pick full anyway I guess. >>> Run the installer again and try it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>> Kaufman >>> >>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:04 PM >>> >>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> >>> >>> Well...I think it gave me the wrong one as it gave me (I think) 5.92; >>> that's as far back as it'd go; now it's telling me "not able to display >>> library (or something) I chose "standard" should I have chosen "full?" >>> >>> Tom Kaufman, who's sorry to be such a pain; am just not seeing the vervage >>> I expect to see! >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM >>> Casey >>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:00 PM >>> >>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> >>> >>> Tom. >>> >>> Don't worry about that. It just means the download was successful, and the >>> executable is now in your downloads folder. You'll see that message from >>> your browser from now on when you download stuff, unless there's another >>> change to Chromium. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>> Kaufman >>> >>> Sent: February 16, 2024 4:51 PM >>> >>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> >>> >>> Guys: I just don't know! I go (on the Winamp page) to where it says >>> "download!" However, I'm presented with a message like "this dialog is not >>> focused; then it says to hit alt-shift-A to focus it...no soap; alt-shift-A >>> does nothing! Now what do I do? >>> >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of >>> dennis >>> >>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 4:15 PM >>> >>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>> >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> >>> >>> here it is. >>> >>> >>> >>> <https://player.winamp.com/trending> >>> https://player.winamp.com/trending >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> go down to almost the bottom of the page. there is a link that says >>> 5.91 >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/16/2024 3:09 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>> >>>> Okay...something is wrong! I typed in Winamp.com, but am getting >>>> something that says Player.winamp (or some such mess) anyhow I searched >>>> for Winamp 5.91, for I think this is what you're saying I want! But it >>>> says it can't find anything that matches my search! So could you send me >>>> a direct link to the page that has the Winamp version I need? Thanks! >>>> Tom Kaufman >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis >>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 20241:48PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i just installed >>>> 5.91 and everything is ship shape. tom go ahead and download from >>>> winamp.com. all my pluggins also seam to work just fine. >>>> On 2/16/2024 12:38 PM, dennis via groups.io wrote: >>>>> i'll take a look. i downloaded the 9.1 and will see how it works. >>>>> if it doesn't i can always re install 09 over it. >>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:36 PM, JM Casey wrote: >>>>>> Hey. >>>>>> I just checked to make sure, and while they seem to have changed >>>>>> the layout a bit in th e last few months, the download link is >>>>>> indeed there on the page. The version number is 5.91. >>>>>> You can still use plugins, since winamp pretty much relies on >>>>>> them to work, however some old plugins may not function anymore. >>>>>> Some were built in to winamp, like the gracenote plugin. The new >>>>>> version I believe removes one or two that were part of the >>>>>> programme. All winamp archive downloads contain a version change >>>>>> log that goes back at least 20 years, so you can see exactly what >>>>>> has been done with the different versions, but most of it is >>>>>> pretty technical behind the scenes stuff that doesn't mean much to the >>>>>> average user. >>>>>> If you still have old winamp plugins that you got yourself and >>>>>> that you like, you can try them -- I don't think I really use any >>>>>> myself, but they should work still. >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis >>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 1:33 PM >>>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io >>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem do you have it >>>>>> and do the pluggins still work as before?i heard that you >>>>>> couldn't use pluggins any more. >>>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:28 PM, JM Casey wrote: >>>>>>> Hey Dennis. >>>>>>> I think you're letting the Winamp.com main page confuse you a bit. >>>>>>> They want you to sign up for an online radio service. I guess >>>>>>> they make money through this soehow now, probably throughs >>>>>>> ponsors or something. But that isn't the latest version of >>>>>>> winamp. The latest version of winamp is v5.9, and it is available from >>>>>>> winamp.com. >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis >>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 12:58 PM To:all-audio@groups.io >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem the latest >>>>>>> version is an online based version. it doesn't opperate as the >>>>>>> previous versions. >>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 11:55 AM, JM Casey wrote: >>>>>>>> Why not just download the latest version from winamp.com? >>>>>>>> Is there any reason you decided not to? >>>>>>>> Not that it's necessary or that important; older versions seem >>>>>>>> to work mostly fine, but if you're going to re-install, you may >>>>>>>> as well update. >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>> Kaufman >>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 12:10 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Hi Dennis: So >>>>>>>> refresh my memory: where do I go to re-install Winamp? Thanks! >>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> dennis >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16,202410:51AMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i still think >>>>>>>> you should re install over that version. >>>>>>>> On 2/15/2024 11:55 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hello again list: I have another problem with Winamp; often >>>>>>>>> when I open Winamp to play something, the commands won't work; >>>>>>>>> not able to advance through the file; not able to adjust the >>>>>>>>> volume.you get the idea! Every so often, I can alt tab away >>>>>>>>> (then alt-tab back to it again. Sometimes this will work, but not >>>>>>>>> all of the time! >>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what could be going on here and how to make >>>>>>>>> this player work right again? I at least am getting the main >>>>>>>>> window to show, but sometimes.let's say I want to pause the >>>>>>>>> file; can't always do it and can't understand why! Thanks for >>>>>>>>> any ideas you may have to get this thing working right again! >>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>>> <http://www.avast.com> www.avast.com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>> <http://www.avast.com> www.avast.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>> <http://www.avast.com> www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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