Okay Dennis...is this 5.909 on that same page as where 5.092 is? Tom Kaufman
-----Original Message----- From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2024 12:06 PM To: all-audio@groups.io Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem btw: i had to go back to 5.909 because 9.2 was freezing my computer. On 2/18/2024 11:03 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: > I guess I am still unclear as to where (exactly) and how I'm supposed to get > there; as I stated before, I'm going to preferences and do see where it says > "skins" (is in a treeview) but again...all I see are modern and classic (it's > set on classic) at least that's what I see, so there appears to be nothing > more I can do! But if someone can steer me in the right direction, that may > help! > Tom Kaufman > > -----Original Message----- > From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 5:58 PM To:all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem > > Are you looking in the preferences tree view? The skins area has some > subcategories, and in the general skins area, you will see installed skins, > and information about the current one that is set, which should be classic, > but you'll know for sure when you check it. Within the skins category you > should see subentries for classic and modern skins, each of which has > settings associated with it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom > Kaufman > Sent: February 17, 2024 5:53 PM > To:all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem > > In Skins, I see two choices, Modern and Classic (I have it set to Classic"; > that's all I'm seeing, unless there's another area that says "skins" that I > don't know where it would be! > Tom Kaufman > > -----Original Message----- > From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 5:43 PM To:all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem > > Hey. > No, I'm sure your computer is fine; this isn't something to spend money and > huge effort on, you just have to figure out what to tweak in settings. > Look in the skins area. You'll see installed skins. Focus on the classic one, > as that's the one you should be using, and check out the options there. > > > -----Original Message----- > From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom > Kaufman > Sent: February 17, 2024 4:43 PM > To:all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem > > Okay, tell me how to change the visualization; maybe that's what's messing > everything up! I must reiterate that as far as changing the skin selection, > there is no "changing it" not as far as I see; it just stays the same, > although there _must_ be a way of changing it to classic skin; must be > something that's hidden from me! As for Jaws, am running 2024 (which I had > running with the other Winamp; never a problem before! I'd hate to think > that it's something with my computer; these computer guys want an arm and a > leg just to come and look at it! There is _no place_ here in town where I > could even carry it to; even if there were, I don't know how I'd get it there! > Tom Kaufman > > -----Original Message----- > From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 4:12 PM To:all-audio@groups.io > Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem > > i did a custom install and did not install any visualization at all. it works > the same as always. i bet your problem is along the visualization rout. > > On 2/17/2024 1:18 PM, JM Casey wrote: >> . >> >> The truth is that whoever is working on the winamp programme now is probably >> a very small development team, and it isn't necessarily a priority project >> for whoever now runs winamp.com as a whole. So on the page it says 5.91 >> still, but that isn't the version that's there anymore. I do think not >> putting the version number in the filename of the installer exe is silly, >> but whether you have 5.91 or 5.92, it'll likely make little or no difference >> to you. You saw the changes I posted earlier. There was no interface >> overhaul, and there never really has been -- the only reason winamp is >> really still around is that people like the look of the thing, and now it's >> a nostalgia thing for people apparently (not those of us who always used it >> and never saw any huge reason to stop of course), so theyr'e not going to >> change the appearance of it so long as they keep the desktop programme >> around. >> As for the annoying bar, I still can't tell you what it is from your >> description, but there's likely a way to be rid of it if you don't like it. >> I think you'll have to play around with the settings; do some experiments >> and see what you come up with. >> As for the JAWS commands not working, yes, it could have something to do >> with the interface not being as expected, and so the scripts that execute >> the commands aren't finding what is expected to be there. Again, go into >> your settings and see what you find. You might particularly want to look at >> the skins area of the tree view. I have visualisations set to off, no >> spectrum analyser, etc. Not sure if that would make a difference or not -- I >> used to live with a sighted person and some of that stuff was on, but winamp >> still seemed to work as I expected it to. Still, maybe you can try messing >> with it and see. >> Another thing to consider is JAWS itself. DO you have an older version of >> JAWS on your computer? Perhaps try running that, and see if the scripts work >> the way they're supposed to there. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >> Kaufman >> Sent: February 16, 2024 10:06 PM >> To:all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >> >> Yeah...a little tricky; it kind of leads you to believe that you're gonna >> get 5.91 (and you don't know until you start to install) that it is, in >> fact, 5.92; may be as Casey is saying "not really any difference" probably >> just a coincidence that I'm seeing the change; furthermore, I guess that the >> way it's appearing to me is something that I'm just "stuck with" it's just >> frustrating when some of those commands that _always_ worked for me; now >> it's hit-and-miss!" I sometimes can alt-tab away; then alt-tab back to >> Winamp and it'll go ahead and work as supposed to! But unless someone can >> tell me of a good "fix" guess I'm just stuck with limping along with it as >> it is! >> Tom Kaufman >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey >> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 8:50 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >> >> Hey Dennis. >> It says 5.91 on the page there, but it is in fact the next version that one >> downloads when one clicks on it. The filename is exactly the same too, so >> the only way to check is to open the archive, but yes, I have verified it. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis >> Sent: February 16, 2024 8:00 PM >> To:all-audio@groups.io >> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >> >> ok go to >> >> https://player.winamp.com/trending >> >> arrow down the page until you see >> >> If you feel a bit nostalgic you can >> download >> the windows version 5.91. >> >> the download is the link to download 5.91. >> >> On 2/16/2024 5:07 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>> Okay Dennis...tell me again _exactly_ how to get this 5.91? Best I can >>> tell, the oldest it had is 5.92! >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis >>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 6:04PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>> >>> yes because i got 5.91. >>> >>> On 2/16/2024 4:56 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>>> Okay...I shut Jaws down...although I've had an occasion to restart the >>>> computer recently, thus, Jaws would have shut down then as well! So let's >>>> try some of these again; am pretty sure it told me that Winamp was in >>>> "Classic mode"...aw...but it don't look like "classic" to me! I thought >>>> Dennis said I could get 5.91 (I think that's what I really was supposed to >>>> get; aw...but it's not on that Winamp page; not as far as I can tell! >>>> Tom Kaufman >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM >>>> Casey >>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 20245:41PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> Hey. >>>> >>>> Never used that keystroke either. But it appears to be working here. That >>>> is a JAWS thing though, not a winamp keystroke. >>>> >>>> The length will show in the playlist editor still though even if that >>>> thing doesn't work. >>>> >>>> After a test, it appears that alt-r function you are talking about is also >>>> a little goodie Freedom Scientific threw in. So, it sounds like your jaws >>>> winamp commands aren't working right now, or at least some of them. When >>>> was the last time you restarted jaws? >>>> >>>> You did set it to classic, right? >>>> >>>> That bar thing that you mentioned, I don't know what it is, but it's >>>> probably something that was there in older versions, too, and which got >>>> turned off. I really don't think they changed the look of Winamp at all. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Kaufman >>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:32 PM >>>> To:all-audio@groups.io >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Okay...apparently (with this newer Winamp) one can no longer get the >>>> length of a track; used to be, you could do Insert-control-T (at least I >>>> think I'm right) and it'd tell you how long the file is; it's not working >>>> now...unless you do it differently! >>>> >>>> Tom Kaufman >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Kaufman >>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:20 PM >>>> >>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well there's this long narrow bar across the screen for one thing; another >>>> thing: although it does say that I can jump to the end of the track with >>>> alt-R, it doesn't work; instead, it says I _must_ be inside the Winamp >>>> main window or playlist editor (which I believe I am) but whenever I do >>>> alt-R, that's the message I get! I think that that 5.9.1 is what I was >>>> supposed to get, but don't think it's listed in my downloads! >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM >>>> Casey >>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:15 PM >>>> >>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How does it look different? I can't see anything and the interface seems >>>> exactly the same as it always has been using the classic mode. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Kaufman >>>> >>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:12 PM >>>> >>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well it looks different; I have it set to classic skins, but this doesn't >>>> look like my old Winamp; at least it seems to be doing what it's supposed >>>> to do; I can advance through the file and probably other things! >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM >>>> Casey >>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:07 PM >>>> >>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No, you got the right one. There's only the latest one there. >>>> >>>> DO you use the library? I don't. But I'd still pick full anyway I guess. >>>> Run the installer again and try it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Kaufman >>>> >>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:04 PM >>>> >>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well...I think it gave me the wrong one as it gave me (I think) 5.92; >>>> that's as far back as it'd go; now it's telling me "not able to display >>>> library (or something) I chose "standard" should I have chosen "full?" >>>> >>>> Tom Kaufman, who's sorry to be such a pain; am just not seeing the vervage >>>> I expect to see! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM >>>> Casey >>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:00 PM >>>> >>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tom. >>>> >>>> Don't worry about that. It just means the download was successful, and the >>>> executable is now in your downloads folder. You'll see that message from >>>> your browser from now on when you download stuff, unless there's another >>>> change to Chromium. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>>> Kaufman >>>> >>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 4:51 PM >>>> >>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Guys: I just don't know! I go (on the Winamp page) to where it says >>>> "download!" However, I'm presented with a message like "this dialog is >>>> not focused; then it says to hit alt-shift-A to focus it...no soap; >>>> alt-shift-A does nothing! Now what do I do? >>>> >>>> Tom Kaufman >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of >>>> dennis >>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 4:15 PM >>>> >>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> all-audio@groups.io >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> here it is. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://player.winamp.com/trending> >>>> https://player.winamp.com/trending >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> go down to almost the bottom of the page. there is a link that says >>>> 5.91 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/16/2024 3:09 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay...something is wrong! I typed in Winamp.com, but am getting >>>>> something that says Player.winamp (or some such mess) anyhow I searched >>>>> for Winamp 5.91, for I think this is what you're saying I want! But it >>>>> says it can't find anything that matches my search! So could you send me >>>>> a direct link to the page that has the Winamp version I need? Thanks! >>>>> Tom Kaufman >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16,20241:48PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i just installed >>>>> 5.91 and everything is ship shape. tom go ahead and download from >>>>> winamp.com. all my pluggins also seam to work just fine. >>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:38 PM, dennis via groups.io wrote: >>>>>> i'll take a look. i downloaded the 9.1 and will see how it works. >>>>>> if it doesn't i can always re install 09 over it. >>>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:36 PM, JM Casey wrote: >>>>>>> Hey. >>>>>>> I just checked to make sure, and while they seem to have changed >>>>>>> the layout a bit in th e last few months, the download link is >>>>>>> indeed there on the page. The version number is 5.91. >>>>>>> You can still use plugins, since winamp pretty much relies on >>>>>>> them to work, however some old plugins may not function anymore. >>>>>>> Some were built in to winamp, like the gracenote plugin. The new >>>>>>> version I believe removes one or two that were part of the >>>>>>> programme. All winamp archive downloads contain a version change >>>>>>> log that goes back at least 20 years, so you can see exactly >>>>>>> what has been done with the different versions, but most of it >>>>>>> is pretty technical behind the scenes stuff that doesn't mean much to >>>>>>> the average user. >>>>>>> If you still have old winamp plugins that you got yourself and >>>>>>> that you like, you can try them -- I don't think I really use >>>>>>> any myself, but they should work still. >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis >>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 1:33 PM >>>>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem do you have it >>>>>>> and do the pluggins still work as before?i heard that you >>>>>>> couldn't use pluggins any more. >>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:28 PM, JM Casey wrote: >>>>>>>> Hey Dennis. >>>>>>>> I think you're letting the Winamp.com main page confuse you a bit. >>>>>>>> They want you to sign up for an online radio service. I guess >>>>>>>> they make money through this soehow now, probably throughs >>>>>>>> ponsors or something. But that isn't the latest version of >>>>>>>> winamp. The latest version of winamp is v5.9, and it is available from >>>>>>>> winamp.com. >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis >>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 12:58 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem the latest >>>>>>>> version is an online based version. it doesn't opperate as the >>>>>>>> previous versions. >>>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 11:55 AM, JM Casey wrote: >>>>>>>>> Why not just download the latest version from winamp.com? >>>>>>>>> Is there any reason you decided not to? >>>>>>>>> Not that it's necessary or that important; older versions seem >>>>>>>>> to work mostly fine, but if you're going to re-install, you >>>>>>>>> may as well update. >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom >>>>>>>>> Kaufman >>>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 12:10PMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Hi Dennis: So >>>>>>>>> refresh my memory: where do I go to re-install Winamp? Thanks! >>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io> >>>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> dennis >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16,202410:51AMTo:all-audio@groups.io >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i still think >>>>>>>>> you should re install over that version. >>>>>>>>> On 2/15/2024 11:55 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hello again list: I have another problem with Winamp; often >>>>>>>>>> when I open Winamp to play something, the commands won't >>>>>>>>>> work; not able to advance through the file; not able to >>>>>>>>>> adjust the volume.you get the idea! Every so often, I can >>>>>>>>>> alt tab away (then alt-tab back to it again. Sometimes this will >>>>>>>>>> work, but not all of the time! >>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what could be going on here and how to >>>>>>>>>> make this player work right again? I at least am getting the >>>>>>>>>> main window to show, but sometimes.let's say I want to pause >>>>>>>>>> the file; can't always do it and can't understand why! >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any ideas you may have to get this thing working right >>>>>>>>>> again! >>>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>>>> <http://www.avast.com> www.avast.com >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>>> <http://www.avast.com> www.avast.com >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>>>> <http://www.avast.com> www.avast.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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