Hey.
No, I'm sure your computer is fine; this isn't something to spend money and 
huge effort on, you just have to figure out what to tweak in settings.
Look in the skins area. You'll see installed skins. Focus on the classic one, 
as that's the one you should be using, and check out the options there.


-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman
Sent: February 17, 2024 4:43 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem

Okay, tell me how to change the visualization; maybe that's what's messing 
everything up!  I must reiterate that as far as changing the skin selection, 
there is no "changing it" not as far as I see; it just stays the same, although 
there _must_ be a way of changing it to classic skin; must be something that's 
hidden from me!  As for Jaws, am running 2024 (which I had running with the 
other Winamp; never a problem before!  I'd hate to think that it's something 
with my computer; these computer guys want an arm and a leg just to come and 
look at it!  There is _no place_ here in town where I could even carry it to; 
even if there were, I don't know how I'd get it there!  
Tom Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: all-audio@groups.io <all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 4:12 PM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem

i did a custom install and did not install any visualization at all. it works 
the same as always. i bet your problem is along the visualization rout.

On 2/17/2024 1:18 PM, JM Casey wrote:
> .
>
> The truth is that whoever is working on the winamp programme now is probably 
> a very small development team, and it isn't necessarily a priority project 
> for whoever now runs winamp.com as a whole. So on the page it says 5.91 
> still, but that isn't the version that's there anymore. I do think not 
> putting the version number in the filename of the installer exe is silly, but 
> whether you have 5.91 or 5.92, it'll likely make little or no difference to 
> you. You saw the changes I posted earlier. There was no interface overhaul, 
> and there never really has been -- the only reason winamp is really still 
> around is that people like the look of the thing, and now it's a nostalgia 
> thing for people apparently (not those of us who always used it and never saw 
> any huge reason to stop of course), so theyr'e not going to change the 
> appearance of it  so long as they keep the desktop programme around.
> As for the  annoying bar, I still can't tell you what it is from your 
> description, but there's likely a way to be rid of it if you don't like it. I 
> think you'll have to play around with the settings; do some experiments and 
> see what you come up with.
> As for the JAWS commands not working, yes, it could have something to do with 
> the interface not being as expected, and so the scripts that execute the 
> commands aren't finding what is expected to be there. Again, go into your 
> settings and see what you find. You might particularly want to look at the 
> skins area of the tree view. I have visualisations set to off, no spectrum 
> analyser, etc. Not sure if that would make a difference or not -- I used to 
> live with a sighted person and some of that stuff was on, but winamp still 
> seemed to work as I expected it to. Still, maybe you can try messing with it 
> and see.
> Another thing to consider is JAWS itself. DO you have an older version of 
> JAWS on your computer? Perhaps try running that, and see if the scripts work 
> the way they're supposed to there.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Kaufman
> Sent: February 16, 2024 10:06 PM
> To:all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>
> Yeah...a little tricky; it kind of leads you to believe that you're gonna get 
> 5.91 (and you don't know until you start to install) that it is, in fact, 
> 5.92; may be as Casey is saying "not really any difference" probably just a 
> coincidence that I'm seeing the change; furthermore, I guess that the way 
> it's appearing to me is something that I'm just "stuck with" it's just 
> frustrating when some of those commands that _always_ worked for me; now it's 
> hit-and-miss!"  I sometimes can alt-tab away; then alt-tab back to Winamp and 
> it'll go ahead and work as supposed to!  But unless someone can tell me of a 
> good "fix" guess I'm just stuck with limping along with it as it is!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of JM Casey
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 8:50 PM To:all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>
> Hey Dennis.
> It says 5.91 on the page there, but it is in fact the next version that one 
> downloads when one clicks on it. The filename is exactly the same too, so the 
> only way to check is to open the archive, but yes, I have verified it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:all-audio@groups.io  <all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of dennis
> Sent: February 16, 2024 8:00 PM
> To:all-audio@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>
> ok go to
>
> https://player.winamp.com/trending
>
> arrow down the page until you see
>
> If you feel a bit nostalgic you can
> download
>    the windows version 5.91.
>
> the download is the link to download 5.91.
>
> On 2/16/2024 5:07 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>> Okay Dennis...tell me again _exactly_ how to get this 5.91?  Best I can 
>> tell, the oldest it had is 5.92!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:all-audio@groups.io   <all-audio@groups.io>   On Behalf Of dennis
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 6:04 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>
>> yes because i got 5.91.
>>
>> On 2/16/2024 4:56 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>> Okay...I shut Jaws down...although I've had an occasion to restart the 
>>> computer recently, thus, Jaws would have shut down then as well!  So let's 
>>> try some of these again; am pretty sure it told me that Winamp was in 
>>> "Classic mode"...aw...but it don't look like "classic" to me!  I thought 
>>> Dennis said I could get 5.91 (I think that's what I really was supposed to 
>>> get; aw...but it's not on that Winamp page; not as far as I can tell!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:all-audio@groups.io    <all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of JM Casey
>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:41PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>> Hey.
>>>
>>> Never used that keystroke either. But it appears to be working here. That 
>>> is a JAWS thing though, not a winamp keystroke.
>>>
>>> The length will show in the playlist editor still though even if that thing 
>>> doesn't work.
>>>
>>> After a test, it appears that alt-r function you are talking about is also 
>>> a little goodie Freedom Scientific threw in. So, it sounds like your jaws 
>>> winamp commands aren't working right now, or at least some of them. When 
>>> was the last time you restarted jaws?
>>>
>>> You did set it to classic, right?
>>>
>>> That bar thing that you mentioned, I don't know what it is, but it's 
>>> probably something that was there in older versions, too, and which got 
>>> turned off. I really don't think they changed the look of Winamp at all.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:all-audio@groups.io    <all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of Tom
>>> Kaufman
>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:32 PM
>>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> Okay...apparently (with this newer Winamp) one can no longer get the length 
>>> of a track; used to be, you could do Insert-control-T (at least I think I'm 
>>> right) and it'd tell you how long the file is; it's  not working 
>>> now...unless you do it differently!
>>>
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io    
>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom 
>>> Kaufman
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:20 PM
>>>
>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> Well there's this long narrow bar across the screen for one thing; another 
>>> thing: although it does say that I can jump to the end of the track with 
>>> alt-R, it doesn't work; instead, it says I _must_ be inside the Winamp main 
>>> window or playlist editor (which I believe I am) but whenever I do alt-R, 
>>> that's the message I get!  I think that that 5.9.1 is what I was supposed 
>>> to get, but don't think it's listed in my downloads!
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io    
>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM 
>>> Casey
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:15 PM
>>>
>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> How does it look different? I can't see anything and the interface seems 
>>> exactly the same as it always has been using the classic mode.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io    
>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom 
>>> Kaufman
>>>
>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:12 PM
>>>
>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> Well it looks different; I have it set to classic skins, but this doesn't 
>>> look like my old Winamp; at least it seems to be doing what it's supposed 
>>> to do; I can advance through the file and probably other things!
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io    
>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM 
>>> Casey
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:07 PM
>>>
>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> No, you got the right one. There's only the latest one there.
>>>
>>> DO you use the library? I don't. But I'd still pick full anyway I guess. 
>>> Run the installer again and try it.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io    
>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom 
>>> Kaufman
>>>
>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 5:04 PM
>>>
>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> Well...I think it gave me the wrong one as it gave me (I think) 5.92; 
>>> that's as far back as it'd go; now it's telling me "not able to display 
>>> library (or something) I chose "standard" should I have chosen "full?"
>>>
>>> Tom Kaufman, who's sorry to be such a pain; am just not seeing the vervage 
>>> I expect to see!
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io    
>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of JM 
>>> Casey
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 5:00 PM
>>>
>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> Tom.
>>>
>>> Don't worry about that. It just means the download was successful, and the 
>>> executable is now in your downloads folder. You'll see that message from 
>>> your browser from now on when you download stuff, unless there's another 
>>> change to Chromium.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io    
>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom 
>>> Kaufman
>>>
>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 4:51 PM
>>>
>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> Guys:  I just don't know!  I go (on the Winamp page) to where it says 
>>> "download!"  However, I'm presented with a message like "this dialog is not 
>>> focused; then it says to hit alt-shift-A to focus it...no soap; alt-shift-A 
>>> does nothing!  Now what do I do?
>>>
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io    
>>> <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io> On Behalf Of 
>>> dennis
>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2024 4:15 PM
>>>
>>> To:<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    all-audio@groups.io
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> here it is.
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     <https://player.winamp.com/trending>    
>>> https://player.winamp.com/trending
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> go down to almost the bottom of the page. there is a link that says
>>> 5.91
>>>
>>>     
>>>
>>> On 2/16/2024 3:09 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay...something is wrong!  I typed in Winamp.com, but am getting 
>>>> something that says Player.winamp (or some such mess) anyhow I searched 
>>>> for Winamp 5.91, for I think this is what you're saying I want!  But it 
>>>> says it can't find anything that matches my search!  So could you send me 
>>>> a direct link to the page that has the Winamp version I need?  Thanks!
>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io     <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    
>>>> all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of dennis
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 20241:48PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i just installed
>>>> 5.91 and everything is ship shape. tom go ahead and download from 
>>>> winamp.com. all my pluggins also seam to work just fine.
>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:38 PM, dennis via groups.io wrote:
>>>>> i'll take a look. i downloaded the 9.1 and will see how it works.
>>>>> if it doesn't i can always re install 09 over it.
>>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:36 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>>> Hey.
>>>>>> I just checked to make sure, and while they seem to have changed 
>>>>>> the layout a bit in th e last few months, the download link is 
>>>>>> indeed there on the page. The version number is 5.91.
>>>>>> You can still use plugins, since winamp pretty much relies on 
>>>>>> them to work, however some old plugins may not function anymore.
>>>>>> Some were built in to winamp, like the gracenote plugin. The new 
>>>>>> version I believe removes one or two that were part of the 
>>>>>> programme. All winamp archive downloads contain a version change 
>>>>>> log that goes back at least 20 years, so you can see exactly what 
>>>>>> has been done with the different versions, but most of it is 
>>>>>> pretty technical behind the scenes stuff that doesn't mean much to the 
>>>>>> average user.
>>>>>> If you still have old winamp plugins that you got yourself and 
>>>>>> that you like, you can try them -- I don't think I really use any 
>>>>>> myself, but they should work still.
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io     <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    
>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>   On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 1:33 PM
>>>>>> To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem do you have it 
>>>>>> and do the pluggins still work as before?i heard that you 
>>>>>> couldn't use pluggins any more.
>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 12:28 PM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey Dennis.
>>>>>>> I think you're letting the Winamp.com main page confuse you a bit.
>>>>>>> They want you to sign up for an online radio service. I guess 
>>>>>>> they make money through this soehow now, probably throughs 
>>>>>>> ponsors or something. But that isn't the latest version of 
>>>>>>> winamp. The latest version of winamp is v5.9, and it is available from 
>>>>>>> winamp.com.
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io     <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    
>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>    On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 12:58 PM To:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem the latest 
>>>>>>> version is an online based version. it doesn't opperate as the 
>>>>>>> previous versions.
>>>>>>> On 2/16/2024 11:55 AM, JM Casey wrote:
>>>>>>>> Why not just download the latest version from winamp.com?
>>>>>>>> Is there any reason you decided not to?
>>>>>>>> Not that it's necessary or that important; older versions seem 
>>>>>>>> to work mostly fine, but if you're going to re-install, you may 
>>>>>>>> as well update.
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io     <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    
>>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of Tom 
>>>>>>>> Kaufman
>>>>>>>> Sent: February 16, 2024 12:10 PMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem Hi Dennis:  So 
>>>>>>>> refresh my memory: where do I go to re-install Winamp?  Thanks!
>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From:all-audio@groups.io     <<mailto:all-audio@groups.io>    
>>>>>>>> all-audio@groups.io>  On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>>> dennis
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 16,202410:51AMTo:all-audio@groups.io
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] Another Winamp Problem i still think 
>>>>>>>> you should re install over that version.
>>>>>>>> On 2/15/2024 11:55 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello again list:  I have another problem with Winamp; often 
>>>>>>>>> when I open Winamp to play something, the commands won't work; 
>>>>>>>>> not able to advance through the file; not able to adjust the 
>>>>>>>>> volume.you get the idea!  Every so often, I can alt tab away 
>>>>>>>>> (then alt-tab back to it again.  Sometimes this will work, but not 
>>>>>>>>> all of the time!
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what could be going on here and how to make 
>>>>>>>>> this player work right again?  I at least am getting the main 
>>>>>>>>> window to show, but sometimes.let's say I want to pause the 
>>>>>>>>> file; can't always do it and can't understand why!  Thanks for 
>>>>>>>>> any ideas you may have to get this thing working right again!
>>>>>>>>> Tom Kaufman
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