Op zaterdag 28-10-2006 om 11:35 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef
NoWhereMan:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Vennik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> >> that's not a bad idea at all; you may make the main window "a splash"...
> >> With this I just mean all the thing a splash would do "show an image,
> >> display some text) would be done in the main window.
>
> > In practice that approximates what Karel was saying already.
>
> yes ;)
>
> >> I don't think showing the menus when the window is just shown would be
> >> needed, it would be even bad; users may try to choose "connect" while
> >> data
> >> is still loading.
>
> > Just have the menus shown, but have anything that is not available yet
> > greyed
> > out.
Just grey it all out, nothing to do as long as it loads, or maybe only
have the Exit entry enabled as that should be the only thing a user
might do while it loads.
> this is just a graphic issue... I'd like it without the menus, and show them
> when they're loaded or optionally when they're ready. But this is just a
> matter of tastes...
>
> >> I think an image with some text ("loading this...", "loading that...")
> >> would be perfectly ok.
>
> > Is a user interested in knowing what an app does exactly when starting?
>
> Well, I do... but probably I'm not the typical user
>
> > I
> > don't think so. Only if it appears to be taking a long time, a user wants
> > to
> > know if it is still going actually, or it got stuck somewhere.
>
> Yes, but what's wrong with the text? it's showing that something is
> happening and it doesn't require any further operations while...
>
> > So the best is
> > to have a progress bar showing some animation (like usual on Mac a.o.)
> > that
> > indicates how far we got, and if the process is still going on (if it got
> > stuck, the animation would stop).
>
> ...a progress bar need the program to have loaded enough graphic libs (if
> you want it to be nice), calculate how much it takes before it ends, etc (so
> if you ever would like to add some steps more for the bootstrap, you would
> have probably to edit the code to make the bar reflect the actual number)
> moreover if the program really get stuck the user can only say "oh, gosh,
> it's stuck" and nothing more... I mean, maybe he would like to know what's
> wrong... and if he bug report "he's stuck on "reading config..." instead of
> "it's stuck at 20%" it would be more helpful for you, too...
> maybe a combo of the two?
>
> > If that config parsing appers to be a problem, we can always move the
> > 'needed
> > early' config like those positions into a special config file which
> > becomes
> > loaded first. We can show the window then, and proceed loading the rest of
> > the config, and do whatever we need to.
So these 5 (just a guess) values from the config pose the problem ? (X,
Y coordinate, width, height and language) I don't know how well this
solution blends, but yet another splash screen is bad IMHO. As we
already have tkcximage loaded (a real "splash" would use it too I guess
to have something nice looking possible), what about just a simple
animation of like 6 frames, like a bar that goes:
[*** ]
[ *** ]
[ *** ]
[ ***]
[ *** ]
[ *** ]
Or do it in 4 frames:
[*** ]
[ *** ]
[ ***]
[ *** ]
?
As long as the thing moves it's "busy" and when an error occurs with
whatever that is crucial to the startup, print it above/underneath this
animation.
Karel.
>
> That's all additional work for you, guys... ;)
>
> bye
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