Hi, I'll answer both of you at the same time... Gus, why we want to have the same look as WLM ? simply because aMSN is a CLONE of WLM and what made amsn so popular today is one thing : "same look and feel", that's our 'trademark' :p seriously, gaim, kopete, emesene, whatever, they all do the same thing, an IM client! but why choose amsn, it's because of its look&feel, people coming from windows or who still are on windows, they don't want some application that changes everything, they don't want to get used to it all over again!!!
I also liked Lord Zak's smileys, and that's when I say "keep it as WLM", I don't say do a copy, on the contrary, lord zak's smileys are exactly the way I like it, simple, nice, funny, they have a little 'cartoon' touch, but they are the SAME as WLM's... I mean, on WLM, I always use ^o) I just like this smileys because it shows an expression I often do in real life... last time, I was trying amsn and I typed that smiley and it showed me some smiley that had NOTHING to do with the wlm's one!! it looks like a "smile while having eyebrows in your face" instead of "looking up as if you're thinking about something", or "talking ironically and teasing someone".. it's too different faces!!! the one crying :'( it looks more like someone peed on himself:p and the one with the glasses (H), for me I always called it the "narcisic smiley" because I use it when I want to joke as in "I'm so great, I love myself, who wants my autograph" kind of emotion, the one in svn is more like "it's hot, I'm on the beach enjoying the sun"... the party one is not clear, the 'angel' smiley, in MSN he has an aureole (the circle above his head) in amsn he has wings, it's 2 different things!!! The 'wilted rose' is also completely different from the original... and why I ask for the same smileys ? simply because you won't get used to the new smiley set, a smiley is an emoticon, an emoticon means it should show an emotion.. if the emotion it shows on your PC is not the same emotion it shows on the other user's pc, it's useless! About saphire.. I don't like the name :p but if you want to change it, I think you have 2 choices : 1 - delete, then readd 2 - write a support request on the sourceforge tracker telling them that it's been months since the 'svn move' command fails and they should enable it from the server because it's driving everyone crazy! About the TODO, I suggest you keep it somewhere like the 0.97 TODO has the todo for 0.97, you could create a thread "skin TODO" so you can keep track of everything and we can more easily report stuff to you, it will also give everyone a good appreciation of when the skin will be finished! now Lord Zak! I love the icons! As I just said, it's nice, it reflects the same emotions as the ones from WLM (so far), I hope you read my mail and will take into account what I said for the future emoticons (although you did good so far), I like the cartoony effect they have, although it looks a bit weird, it's a nice look to have it like that! they all reflect the same thing as WLM, so I'm glad, continue like that, get the whole set done and I think we just got ourselves a great new smiley set that everyone will surely like! So in short, thanks, they look good, keep it up, they are more than enough 'WLM-like' and yes, I'd be glad to have them as the new default skin's smiley set! :) Good night! KaKaRoTo On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 07:22:44AM +0200, Lord Zak wrote: > Thank you... > You can have a look to what I did last 2 days : > http://ubitux.free.fr/images/t8orv42912Y2Q7x3SrkQgyZ2wT2h0y8O.png > I'm trying to make the main smileys asap. > > KaKaRoTo, are they enought WLM like ? Are you ok to put them in the > Sapphire theme ? > > > 2007/5/4, "Gustavo A. Díaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Hi!! > > > > Why always we should look forward to have same look of WLMSN? I don't > >think (in my opinion) that those smiles from that app looks nice, even that > >IM "look" is not nicer at all... > > > > I like the style of Smile that Lord Zak did, it is nice to make some > >improvements of that base. Besides those has a very nice "expression". > > > >If this will be not included in the default skin, i will in the original. > > > >By the way... Like many read in the forum, I've decided to change the name > >skin to Sapphire, so i tried to move Emerald2.0 to Sapphire2.0 (in > >amsn-extras)... but seems SF does not allow it. > >So.. i should delete the hole dir and upload it with the new name? > > > >Another thing, if someone have something to suggest about skin, do it now. > >I know that the final release is closer and i just have a few things to > >improve, then finish it as soon i can. > > > > > >Cheers. > > > > > >[GuS] > > > >Youness Alaoui escribió: > > > >I very much like the smileys you did... but I really don't know if we > >should change yet once again our whole > >smiley set.. changing smileys is difficult for the users who have to get > >used to the new smileys.. we changed > >then once from the M$ copyrighted images, now we change them again.. what > >would users think ? If you could maybe > >make them look AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE the same as the M$ ones.. no 'fancy' or > >'better' or whatever.. just making > >them look like the M$ ones (which are nice), so people won't get confused > >and have to readapt themselves to a > >new smiley set... > >apart from that, good job! > > > >POLL : > >1 - keep the old smiley set > > > >2 - a new smiley set however it looks > > > >3 - a new smiley set looking as much as possible as the M$ smileys > > > >4 - confused??? > >KaKaRoTo > > > > > >KKRT > > > > > >On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 03:28:37PM -0300, "Gustavo A. Díaz" wrote: > > > > Good then! i like those Smiles expresion ;) > > > >Lord Zak escribió: > > > > Right... I'm trying to do them all to night for the main ones (smileys > >with a face), and I'll send the .svg. > >They will look like something like that (see file) ; I'll change the > >color, and make .svg more clean ; like that, it will me easier for you > >to edit them as you want... They're very simple, I hope it will be ok > > > > > >2007/5/2, "Gustavo A. Díaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > > Very Good! Now if you want, make the hole set, and i could help > > you to improve it. > > > > Lord Zak escribió: > > > > For the skin I'm trying to do the smileys... Is something like > > that okay ? > > > > 2007/5/2, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > > > Here's the complete TODO for 0.97.. we want to get 0.97 out > > as soon as possible, I would have had enough time to > > do it lately but I'm very busy these last days, so... let's > > try to cut this thing down.. > > we have 4 items, > > - support msn spaces > > yeah, ok, that's the big one, but hey, it's not working > > anymore!!!! really.. the msn server for spaces is not > > working anymore for protocols earlier than msnp13.. so even > > msn 7.5 is broken now, we can't get the spaces info, > > so we can't display anything.. so what should we do ? wait > > until M$ fixes it so we can start implementing it? or > > shoul we just drop the feature for 0.97 (who know when > > they'll fix it for 'earlier versions'). Anyways, look at > > the poll results from the main site, spaces are the least > > wanted feature.. I vote for dropping it for now, and > > either get a 0.97.1 with spaces support, or 0.98 with > > spaces... (if M$ fixes their server) > > > > - finish the skin > > the skin looks good now! what remains ? we need to know > > exactly what we still need to fix in the skin so we > > can release ASAP... I know the sounds must be changed, I > > think the smiley set should be restored to the > > stylistic ones (if not already done) and I think the colors > > in the CL for away/online/busy/etc.. should be made > > to be as they were before with stylistic... apart from that, > > I don't know what else remains.. (maybe make the > > group's frame a lighter blue ?) > > > > - update FAQ.. > > yeah.. can be done between RC1 and final > > > > - fix bug with the icons > > shouldn't this be fixed already ? I see the code for it, I > > just don't know if it's working.. can anyone > > confirm ? if it's done, then this should be removed... > > > > > > In short, we want the detailed TODO for the skin and we want > > a vote on dropping the spaces support or delaying > > the release again... > > > > KaKaRoTo > > > > New Complete 0.97 TODO: > > - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/ > > kakaroto) (finish the UI) > > - Finish the new Skin > > - Update FAQ... (Document the --enable-pwc configure option, and > > update everything with new screenshots) > > - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be > > 'catch'-ed > > and fallback on old method. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and > > take > > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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