Move done as r8544 as Gus seemed to really want it...
I don't know if admins have more rights or if I know how to do the move...
cd ./amsn-extras/skins
svn move Emerald-2.0/ Sapphire2.0
svn ci
Phil

Lord Zak a écrit :
> Thanks a lot, and yes of course I read your mail, and I totally agree
> with it... it is the reason I wanted to do the smileys... I really don't
> like ^o).
> I'm trying to do the best, and I hope you'll don't regret it. Thanks again.
> 
> 
> 2007/5/4, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
> 
>     Hi,
>     I'll answer both of you at the same time...
> 
>     Gus, why we want to have the same look as WLM ? simply because aMSN
>     is a CLONE of WLM and what made amsn so
>     popular today is one thing : "same look and feel", that's our
>     'trademark' :p seriously, gaim, kopete, emesene,
>     whatever, they all do the same thing, an IM client! but why choose
>     amsn, it's because of its look&feel, people
>     coming from windows or who still are on windows, they don't want
>     some application that changes everything, they
>     don't want to get used to it all over again!!!
> 
>     I also liked Lord Zak's smileys, and that's when I say "keep it as
>     WLM", I don't say do a copy, on the contrary,
>     lord zak's smileys are exactly the way I like it, simple, nice,
>     funny, they have a little 'cartoon' touch, but
>     they are the SAME as WLM's... I mean, on WLM, I always use ^o) I
>     just like this smileys because it shows an
>     expression I often do in real life... last time, I was trying amsn
>     and I typed that smiley and it showed me some
>     smiley that had NOTHING to do with the wlm's one!! it looks like a
>     "smile while having eyebrows in your face"
>     instead of "looking up as if you're thinking about something", or
>     "talking ironically and teasing someone"..
>     it's too different faces!!!
>     the one crying :'( it looks more like someone peed on himself:p and
>     the one with the glasses (H), for me I
>     always called it the "narcisic smiley" because I use it when I want
>     to joke as in "I'm so great, I love myself,
>     who wants my autograph" kind of emotion, the one in svn is more like
>     "it's hot, I'm on the beach enjoying the
>     sun"...
>     the party one is not clear, the 'angel' smiley, in MSN he has an
>     aureole (the circle above his head) in amsn he
>     has wings, it's 2 different things!!!  The 'wilted rose' is also
>     completely different from the original...
> 
>     and why I ask for the same smileys ? simply because you won't get
>     used to the new smiley set, a smiley is an
>     emoticon, an emoticon means it should show an emotion.. if the
>     emotion it shows on your PC is not the same
>     emotion it shows on the other user's pc, it's useless!
> 
>     About saphire.. I don't like the name :p but if you want to change
>     it, I think you have 2 choices :
>     1 - delete, then readd
>     2 - write a support request on the sourceforge tracker telling them
>     that it's been months since the 'svn move'
>     command fails and they should enable it from the server because it's
>     driving everyone crazy!
> 
>     About the TODO, I suggest you keep it somewhere like the 0.97 TODO
>     has the todo for 0.97, you could create a
>     thread "skin TODO" so you can keep track of everything and we can
>     more easily report stuff to you, it will also
>     give everyone a good appreciation of when the skin will be finished!
> 
>     now Lord Zak! I love the icons! As I just said, it's nice, it
>     reflects the same emotions as the ones from WLM
>     (so far), I hope you read my mail and will take into account what I
>     said for the future emoticons (although you
>     did good so far), I like the cartoony effect they have, although it
>     looks a bit weird, it's a nice look to have
>     it like that! they all reflect the same thing as WLM, so I'm glad,
>     continue like that, get the whole set done
>     and I think we just got ourselves a great new smiley set that
>     everyone will surely like!
> 
>     So in short, thanks, they look good, keep it up, they are more than
>     enough 'WLM-like' and yes, I'd be glad to
>     have them as the new default skin's smiley set! :)
> 
>     Good night!
> 
>     KaKaRoTo
> 
>     On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 07:22:44AM +0200, Lord Zak wrote:
>     > Thank you...
>     > You can have a look to what I did last 2 days :
>     > http://ubitux.free.fr/images/t8orv42912Y2Q7x3SrkQgyZ2wT2h0y8O.png
>     > I'm trying to make the main smileys asap.
>     >
>     > KaKaRoTo, are they enought  WLM like ? Are you ok to put them in the
>     > Sapphire theme ?
>     >
>     >
>     > 2007/5/4, "Gustavo A. Dí­az" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
>     > >
>     > > Hi!!
>     > >
>     > >    Why always we should look forward to have same look of WLMSN?
>     I don't
>     > >think (in my opinion) that those smiles from that app looks nice,
>     even that
>     > >IM "look" is not nicer at all...
>     > >
>     > >    I like the style of Smile that Lord Zak did, it is nice to
>     make some
>     > >improvements of that base. Besides those has a very nice
>     "expression".
>     > >
>     > >If this will be not included in the default skin, i will in the
>     original.
>     > >
>     > >By the way... Like many read in the forum, I've decided to change
>     the name
>     > >skin to Sapphire, so i tried to move Emerald2.0 to Sapphire2.0 (in
>     > >amsn-extras)... but seems SF does not allow it.
>     > >So.. i should delete the hole dir and upload it with the new name?
>     > >
>     > >Another thing, if someone have something to suggest about skin,
>     do it now.
>     > >I know that the final release is closer and i just have a few
>     things to
>     > >improve, then finish it as soon i can.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >Cheers.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >[GuS]
>     > >
>     > >Youness Alaoui escribió:
>     > >
>     > >I very much like the smileys you did... but I really don't know
>     if we
>     > >should change yet once again our whole
>     > >smiley set.. changing smileys is difficult for the users who have
>     to get
>     > >used to the new smileys.. we changed
>     > >then once from the M$ copyrighted images, now we change them
>     again.. what
>     > >would users think ? If you could maybe
>     > >make them look AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE the same as the M$ ones.. no
>     'fancy' or
>     > >'better' or whatever.. just making
>     > >them look like the M$ ones (which are nice), so people won't get
>     confused
>     > >and have to readapt themselves to a
>     > >new smiley set...
>     > >apart from that, good job!
>     > >
>     > >POLL :
>     > >1 - keep the old smiley set
>     > >
>     > >2 - a new smiley set however it looks
>     > >
>     > >3 - a new smiley set looking as much as possible as the M$ smileys
>     > >
>     > >4 - confused???
>     > >KaKaRoTo
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >KKRT
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 03:28:37PM -0300, "Gustavo A. Dí­az" wrote:
>     > >
>     > > Good then! i like those Smiles expresion ;)
>     > >
>     > >Lord Zak escribió:
>     > >
>     > > Right... I'm trying to do them all to night for the main ones
>     (smileys
>     > >with a face), and I'll send the .svg.
>     > >They will look like something like that (see file) ; I'll change the
>     > >color, and make .svg more clean ; like that, it will me easier
>     for you
>     > >to edit them as you want... They're very simple, I hope it will be ok
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >2007/5/2, "Gustavo A. Dí­az" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>:
>     > >
>     > >   Very Good! Now if you want, make the hole set, and i could help
>     > >   you to improve it.
>     > >
>     > >   Lord Zak escribió:
>     > >
>     > >    For the skin I'm trying to do the smileys... Is something like
>     > >   that okay ?
>     > >
>     > >   2007/5/2, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     > >   <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>     > >   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>:
>     > >
>     > >       Here's the complete TODO for 0.97 .. we want to get 0.97 out
>     > >       as soon as possible, I would have had enough time to
>     > >       do it lately but I'm very busy these last days, so... let's
>     > >       try to cut this thing down..
>     > >       we have 4 items,
>     > >       - support msn spaces
>     > >         yeah, ok, that's the big one, but hey, it's not working
>     > >       anymore!!!! really.. the msn server for spaces is not
>     > >       working anymore for protocols earlier than msnp13.. so even
>     > >       msn 7.5 is broken now, we can't get the spaces info,
>     > >       so we can't display anything.. so what should we do ? wait
>     > >       until M$ fixes it so we can start implementing it? or
>     > >       shoul we just drop the feature for 0.97 (who know when
>     > >       they'll fix it for 'earlier versions'). Anyways, look at
>     > >       the poll results from the main site, spaces are the least
>     > >       wanted feature.. I vote for dropping it for now, and
>     > >       either get a 0.97.1 with spaces support, or 0.98 with
>     > >       spaces... (if M$ fixes their server)
>     > >
>     > >       - finish the skin
>     > >         the skin looks good now! what remains ? we need to know
>     > >       exactly what we still need to fix in the skin so we
>     > >       can release ASAP... I know the sounds must be changed, I
>     > >       think the smiley set should be restored to the
>     > >       stylistic ones (if not already done) and I think the colors
>     > >       in the CL for away/online/busy/etc.. should be made
>     > >       to be as they were before with stylistic... apart from that,
>     > >       I don't know what else remains.. (maybe make the
>     > >       group's frame a lighter blue ?)
>     > >
>     > >       - update FAQ..
>     > >         yeah.. can be done between RC1 and final
>     > >
>     > >       - fix bug with the icons
>     > >         shouldn't this be fixed already ? I see the code for it, I
>     > >       just don't know if it's working.. can anyone
>     > >       confirm ? if it's done, then this should be removed...
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >       In short, we want the detailed TODO for the skin and we want
>     > >       a vote on dropping the spaces support or delaying
>     > >       the release again...
>     > >
>     > >       KaKaRoTo
>     > >
>     > >       New Complete 0.97 TODO:
>     > >       - Finish support for MSN spaces (task # 124063) (scapor/karel/
>     > >       kakaroto) (finish the UI)
>     > >       - Finish the new Skin
>     > >       - Update FAQ... (Document the --enable-pwc configure
>     option, and
>     > >       update everything with new screenshots)
>     > >       - Fix bug with 'wm iconphoto' on win98... this should be
>     > >       'catch'-ed
>     > >       and fallback on old method.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
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