lol, yeah, too fast, but I wasn't going to say it, although I thought about it 
:p

KKRT

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 05:30:55PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote:
> talking about long mails :p
> 
> (I say it before you do)
> 
> 2007/5/30, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > (first paragraph is to youness:)
> > Long mails are very discouraging (is this english ?), especially if
> > they start with "I fully disagree with Karel.".  Further on, after
> > reading your mail (I read it!), I found out you don't "disagree" for
> > 100% with what I said... so I was asking myself if you did read my
> > whole mail and secondly, if you really thought a bit of it before
> > responding.
> > (not meant harsh in any way)
> >
> >
> > Probably I'm gonna leave this debate alone as I don't see myself
> > arguing a month or two to see (afterwards) it didn't have much effect.
> >  Some points though:
> >
> > * I also proposed FT's to be listed in the chatwindow of the
> > corresponding chat, without being in the chat history (so they don't
> > scroll).  Seems logical, right ?  You seem to do the same with your
> > bar.  I even thought about that bar too.  But then I opened a chat
> > window, made some drawings and saw we, most of the time, have a lot of
> > "screen real estate" free (kind of wasted)underneath the contact's DP,
> > on the right of the chat history.  That's why I proposed to have this
> > information over there.  It's debatable if this is the right place or
> > not as it seems easier to fit all this info in horizontal lines.  two
> > lines per file traffic didn't seem too much anyway.
> >
> > * You say I'm crazy about the CL and want everything inside of it ?
> > The main purpose of  amsn's main window might be listing contacts, but
> > it's also from there on you change your
> > status/nickname/preferences/plugin settings.   There's  an event log
> > (if chosen) underneath the CL (CL not being the window but the
> > widget).  I proposed to have the file transfer "manager" show up
> > underneath it in one of my designs.  This is not in the CL thus.  If
> > you want to remove clutter by not having a new window.  In what window
> > would you list "fts of multiple users".  In a window where only in 1
> > setting all active chats are going on or the window that lists all
> > contacts, so all of those who are sending ?
> >
> > * Is a "ft manager" needed after all ? (because of this question I
> > proposed the FT in the chatwindow but not in the chat history).  How
> > many FT's do you think an ordinary aMSN user does at the same time ?
> > Do we need an overview of all the FT's going on ? or is the user able
> > to know which FT's he/she has going on (because they are not so many)
> > and only needs to know about that FT's status when in an active chat
> > with the contact he's sending to or receiving from ?  -> next point
> >
> > * I think (you not I guess) an ordinary (a)MSN user watches the status
> > of an FT while in a chat with that specific user.  To see how much
> > longer it will take before he can end the conversation for example.
> > That's why I think it should at all time be possible to have a
> > conversation open with a user on screen and the file transfer with
> > that user at the same time.  This is not possible if you put the ft in
> > another tab of the chatwindow.
> >
> > Anyway; I'm not sure if this is worth it at the end but it might make
> > you think a bit more about it (not meant harsh, like "you didn't think
> > about it" (but, did you ? :p))
> >
> > Have a great day,
> >
> > Karel.
> >
> 
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