Uhm, I took a look at my fonts configuration files both in /etc/fonts
and in my home, but couldn't find the "unique way of getting system
default font" as expected. :( I don't have much free time to mess with
tcl/tk, and I'm still working on langit, which has priority for now,
but why don't you just set the line to look like this?
-family {DejaVu Sans} -size 10 -weight normal -slant roman -underline
0 -overstrike 0
I think DejaVu Sans is the best default font available to GNU/Linux
users, it's way better than Helvetica imho. Would this setting even be
possibile?Montblanc 2009/4/23 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>: > Ah I see what you mean now, you've got a good point... so yes, maybe the > Helvetica font itself is bigger than most fonts and so when amsn fonts > appear big, it's not a dpi issue or whatever, it only appears big *IN > COMPARISON* with other apps because those other apps are using a different > font/size... > so if the ubuntu default is Deja Vu Sans 9, then it's a problem, we would > then need to have aMSN take the default font from the system.. is there any > 'unique' way of getting what the system default font is ? is it a gnome/kde > setting or is it an X setting ? > If there is, then yeay, let's use that if not (or if it fails) then fallback > on Arial 10, or Ms Sans Serif 10, if none are available then fallback on > Helvetica 10... > ahhh... a quick look at tcl.tk man page > http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.4/TkCmd/font.htm#M15 : > (amsn) 1 % font actual systemfont > -family {DejaVu Sans} -size 12 -weight normal -slant roman -underline 0 > -overstrike 0 > so I guess we could set it to [list [font actual systemfont -family] [font > actual systemfont -size] > Thanks Montblanc for bringing this up and helping us understand the issue! > KaKaRoTo > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Montblanc <toto...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Well, kakaroto, it's not our duty to solve AMD/Ati drivers problems, >> aMSN is not to blame for that! :) >> I'll give you an example: as you said, aMSN default font size is 11. >> Let's suppose our system default general font is DejaVu Sans 9 (I >> think it actually is, on Ubuntu...). To make its size look like all of >> the other apps, you have to reduce font size to 10. >> Now, let's suppose I set Ubuntu fonts to Dejavu Sans 10 and keep >> Helvetica 11 on aMSN. There's no difference. >> <detective_mode>I think we should consider aMSN font size as *system >> default size +1".</detective_mode> >> I tried this on my friend's system too (Kubuntu 8.10), and I had to >> set his font size from Nimbus Sans 11 to Nimbus Sans 10 (by the way, >> it's really a nice font), while his system fonts were Bitstream Vera >> 9. >> SOLUTION: >> >> if { [OnMac] } { >> setGlobalKey basefont [list {Lucida Grande} 12 normal] ; >> base font >> } elseif { [OnWin] } { >> setGlobalKey basefont [list Arial 10 normal] >> } else { >> setGlobalKey basefont [list Helvetica 10 normal] ; >> } >> >> And, obviously, decreasing main window and chat windows resolutions >> accordingly. >> >> These are just my suppositions; I'm human and I might be wrong. ^_^" >> Just tell me what you think about it. >> >> Montblanc >> >> 2009/4/22 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net>: >> > By the way, compare these : >> > http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1vAd7r >> > http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1P5csi >> > You can see how the font size can change from one person to another.. >> > and >> > no, all their other applications were fine (so no dpi problem or >> > whatever it >> > is)... >> > And from this forum thread : >> > http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4202 >> > "Changed from Xinerama to TwinView, and all works great. Thanks to >> > nvidia >> > drivers I suppose." >> > so maybe the problem is elsewhere... it may be dependent on the >> > drivers... >> > I don't know! How could we solve that? >> > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Youness Alaoui >> > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> Well, I use {MS Sans serif, 10} on windows, and I think on linux, I use >> >> {Arial 12}.. The default we use I think is {Helvetica 11}.. if someone >> >> has a >> >> better font to suggest, then please suggest it and we can discuss it... >> >> But >> >> note that it should be a font available on a bare system (without >> >> msfonts >> >> installed and stuff like that).. for the size, 10 to 12 is pretty nice, >> >> we >> >> use 11 by default i think which should be perfect... maybe Helvetica's >> >> 11 is >> >> a bit big though, I don't know... >> >> anyways, here are the defaults : >> >> if { [OnMac] } { >> >> setGlobalKey basefont [list {Lucida Grande} 12 normal] ;#AMSN Mac OS >> >> X >> >> base font >> >> } elseif { [OnWin] } { >> >> setGlobalKey basefont [list Arial 10 normal] >> >> } else { >> >> setGlobalKey basefont [list Helvetica 11 normal] ;#AMSN base font >> >> } >> >> which I think are pretty good already! >> >> >> >> 2009/4/22 Stéphane Bisinger <stephane.bisin...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> >>> 2009/4/22 Montblanc <toto...@gmail.com>: >> >>> > I'm using Kubuntu. Experiences I heard were from friends using >> >>> > Ubuntu >> >>> > Netbook Remix, Ubuntu, Puppy and Fedora. >> >>> >> >>> Gosh! :P >> >>> >> >>> > If you're really sure it's >> >>> > distro specific, we should tell aMSN package maintainers about this. >> >>> >> >>> I do not seem to have a problem with that on Gentoo, but it may be >> >>> subjective. Georgia size 13 is big compared to other fonts, but it is >> >>> also very readable. I tried using other fonts, but after the "cool" >> >>> factor cools down (sorry for the pun :P) I realize that text is >> >>> straining my eyes and go back to Georgia with size 13. Also consider >> >>> that if the font is too big, users may not like it, but they can still >> >>> use the program (and maybe find out they can resize the font size), on >> >>> the other hand if font is too small well... good luck using a program >> >>> you can't read! >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Stéphane >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>> Stay on top of everything new and different, both inside and >> >>> around Java (TM) technology - register by April 22, and save >> >>> $200 on the JavaOne (SM) conference, June 2-5, 2009, San Francisco. >> >>> 300 plus technical and hands-on sessions. 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