p.s: for the curious, here's the commit counts per author for all the
branches, since a lot of work has been done in branches other than trunk/,
then merged later :
http://pastebin.com/vKPamT7K
This doesn't include some of the other work that was done in a
separate/private SVN repository then merged (like the libsiren code that I
did in a private repo with hundreds of commits before commiting it all to
amsn repo in a single commit). And it doesn't include the work on amsn2 that
is being currently developed on git and not svn.
KaKaRoTo
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Youness Alaoui <
kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Álvaro J. Iradier <airad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> To make things clear, I'm not offended at all, I was just surprised.
>>
> Cool, I'm glad you're not offended, you have no reason to be offended.
>
>
>> Yes, I've been quite inactive, that's true. My last commit was 14
>> months ago (that's not years and years :p). But I was one of the
>> founders of the project, still active in the mailing list from time to
>> time, and I think I'm still one of the top commiters.
>>
>
> Yes, but I know you've been inactive for a while, yes, your last commit was
> 14 months ago, and that was the initial asyncresolver extension, then that's
> it, before that, it was back in 2007, so that's why I said "years and years"
> since it's been about 3 years since your last real activity
> I don't really think that matters anyways, because 14 months of inactivity
> is already *alot*.
> You can't really say you're still active in the mailing list since the
> mailing list itself isn't really active, most of us are always on IRC, but
> you're never there.You never talk to us, you never join the IRC channel, you
> have no idea on what's happening with aMSN, So I can't consider you as being
> still 'active' in the development of aMSN.
> And no, you're not still one of the top commiters. You do have a lot of
> commit counts, but most of them (almost 50%) are because of your langlist
> automatic commit cronjob, and lang file updates. I took the liberty of
> writing a small script to check the commit counts for everyone from the svn
> log output, and the result is available here if you're curious:
> http://pastebin.com/dScJufjC
> And even if you had top commiter rank, that doesn't change the fact that
> your current status is inactive. Read below for what I think about 'past
> achievements'...
>
>
>> It's just today I was going to show something about AMSN to a friend,
>> and I noticed I wasn't a project member anymore. I really don't mind
>> much about it, right now I don't "need" it. But if I had to choose,
>> I'd prefer to stay a member. AMSN is like a "son" for me, and I can't
>> be sure I'll be back on it some day.
>>
> Yes, I understand, I feel the exact same way, aMSN is my little baby too,
> and that's the reason why, after all these years, and after all the time
> wasted on it, and all my attempts to leave the project, I just couldn't drop
> it. aMSN is important for me, and that's why I've always came back and
> stayed active.. And (don't take this the wrong way, it's just a joke), if
> aMSN is like a son for you and you only visited him once in 3 years, then
> maybe you're not a good daddy :p
> Anyways, like I said, I understand you, and I've thought about this for a
> while and consulted with the other admins before removing you as well as
> some other people from the member list. It turned out to be a simple
> decision of : who is active? not "who deserves his name in there"...
> Your name is still in the README file, CREDITS, etc.. you're still one of
> the original authors, but you're just not one of the currently active
> developers. I respect your work, everybody here does, but if I re-add you
> out of respect for your work, what about others who have been huge
> contributors? like burgerman and germinator for example ? If we start adding
> people out of respect of their past work, then we'd end up with a big list
> of members again where nobody is active and it doesn't represent us very
> well..
> I've had people tell me that they see the member list and they expect aMSN
> to be very active because of all the members.. some even say "they don't
> need me, they're so many already", so it doesn't show the reality, and I
> don't like that.
>
> There's one thing that I liked about launchpad is that a membership to a
> project expires after 3 or 6 months, so if you're active, you get the 'your
> membership is about to expire" email, and you tell the admin "please renew
> it". If you're not active, you'd end up not asking for renewals, so all
> inactive devs get automatically kicked out by the system. The way SF works
> is that I have to manually kick people which is annoying, embarassing and
> sometimes a hard to make decision. The way launchpad works is that the
> embarassment is shifted from the admin to the developer, after X years of
> inactivity, the developer (you in this case) would be the one who would be
> embarassed for asking for membership renewal knowing that he's doing nothing
> to help the project. And when you get kicked out, you don't blame me or some
> other admin for what "they did to you', you can only blame the system or
> yourself for not responding to the "your membership is about to expire"
> email.
>
> Either way, to conclude, I'd say that you're not currently a developer, but
> if you need commit access again because you've got some free time now, and
> you want to be active again like in the old days (not just a few commits, in
> which case, you can send patches like everyone else), then I have no problem
> in adding you again, but you need to become active. And also, now all
> developers are required to be in the #amsn channel on IRC, so you'd need to
> join us there.
>
>
>
>>
>> BTW, it's just me, or are you experiencing increasing spam on MSN?
>> Every day I get 2 or 3 invitations from stupid bot-girls offering
>> naughty things on the webcam.
>>
> I only got one so far, which is higher than the zero I had before.. I think
> spammers will always find new ways to annoy us... unfortunately, this is
> getting ridiculous!
>
>
>>
>> Greets.
>>
>
> Take care,
> KaKaRoTo
>
>
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Youness Alaoui
>> <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Álvaro J. Iradier <airad...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Today I was checking sourceforge, and I noticed I'm not an AMSN
>> >> project member anymore.
>> >
>> > Hi
>> >
>> >>
>> >> How, when and why did this happen?
>> >
>> >
>> > How: I removed the inactive devs myself through the SF interface
>> > When: A few months ago I think
>> > Why: Because we were about 40 'members' and almost noone in there was
>> > active, so I decided to remove anyone who wasn't a developer anymore,
>> all
>> > inactive devs were deleted, and you were one of them.
>> > I don't understand why you seem shocked by this, you haven't been active
>> for
>> > years and years, and the last time we spoke, I remember you telling me
>> to
>> > remove you from the list of members since you're not active anymore, and
>> I
>> > just told you "nah, it's ok".
>> > Anyways, if you've got something to say, you'll find me on MSN, as
>> always.
>> > Take care,
>> > KaKaRoTo
>> >>
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>> >>
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