I was basing my comments on this: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080415-google-talks-up-android-open-ecosystems-lead-to-innovation.html
Naturally, the reporting could be inaccurate, but I have no reason to think that it is. Tom. On Apr 19, 8:27 pm, "Shane Isbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Tom, > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:06 PM, tomgibara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Shane, > > > I have two short comments. > > > Firstly, I do think you explained the role for your application > > clearly - I was interested and installed the sam-1.0-CE.apk. > > Unfortunately it didn't work, and posted feedback via the slideme > > website but received no response (attempting to install any > > application hung the application, and the activities stack incorrectly > > causing difficulties with the back-button and an OutOfMemoryError > > after a time). Perhaps you need to check your feedback form is > > working? > > Thanks for reporting, we need as much feedback as possible. I'll check with > George and see if he received it. Also make sure that you have the external > installer process, otherwise the client will attempt to connect to a > non-existent socket and freeze up on an install. Details located > here:http://code.google.com/p/slideme/wiki/InstallingOTA > > > > > Secondly, though YA's statement seems a little optimistic to me, > > Hielko's parent statement is accurate. This makes your response, in > > general, incorrect. > > Actually, I don't think my statements are inaccurate. All I've seen posted > from verifiable sources, is that the members have agreed not to fragment the > platform. The location based APIs are optional, so a carrier could easily > restrict these optional APIs to signed applications. I also haven't been > able to find anything (other than blogs) that says the carriers are okay > with installing any application, with any permission on their devices. If I > missed this, please point me to it. I'd love to be wrong on this. > > Shane > > > > > Tom. > > > On Apr 19, 4:37 pm, "Shane Isbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Lol. Carriers own the network. They can do what they want with devices > > they > > > subsidize. Davlik is going to have all sorts of security built on top of > > it. > > > To access certain features, will require the carrier signing the app. > > And in > > > certain cases, the carriers would not be wrong in doing so for security > > > reasons. > > > > Shane > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:41 AM, YA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If you use an Android handset, there is no way for a carrier to lock > > > > out any third apps except by tweaking the Android core or Dalvik to > > > > make is carrier-compatible only. A generic Android handset, however, > > > > will run over any network and will run any apps its owner pleases. > > > > > YA > > > > > On Apr 19, 2:38 pm, Hielko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Quote: If we (by we I mean all of us) don't have a large, organized > > > > > community with > > > > > content to deliver, what do you think the chances are a carrier is > > > > > going to > > > > > allow any non-approved application the "rights" to install other > > > > > applications? If not zero, then its close to zero. > > > > > > Members of the OHA have signed an agreement that they will not limit > > > > > the functionality of the android platform/the freedom of the users, > > to > > > > > install what they want. Members of the OHA include some large > > > > > carriers, so I'm not afraid of the scenario that you are painting. > > > > > Android is not like other platforms! > > > > > > On Apr 19, 11:41 am, "Shane Isbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm just trying to clarify SlideME since the feedback we got was > > > > completely > > > > > > not the message we are intending to put out there. I'm not saying > > > > anything > > > > > > about number of submissions. I'm trying to clarify that we are not > > a > > > > catalog > > > > > > or database. > > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:35 AM, Peli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Shane, > > > > > > > > You just announced your site a week or two ago. It takes time > > for > > > > > > > people to discover your site. Put a clickable link to SlideME > > into > > > > > > > every post you write in this forum and you'll get the traffic > > :-) > > > > > > > > Peli > > > > > > > CLICK HERE -->>>www.openintents.org<<<-- CLICK HERE!!! ;-) ;-) > > > > > > > > On Apr 19, 10:03 am, "Shane Isbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > For some reason, I don't think we at SlideME have done a good > > job > > > > > > > > communicating what we are about. After reviewing a lot of > > feedback > > > > we > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > gotten, it seems that many developers think SlideME is about > > > > searching > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > browsing for applications. We are not a database. We are not a > > > > baby > > > > > > > > HelloAndroid. We are about stocking and delivery of > > applications > > > > to > > > > > > > > emulators and soon-to-be devices. We deal with the whole work > > flow > > > > of > > > > > > > > getting the application from the developer to the end user, > > for > > > > mobile. > > > > > > > We > > > > > > > > are building the server and Android client side components to > > make > > > > this > > > > > > > > happen by the time devices launch at the end of this year. > > > > > > > > > Shane- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Challenge" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
