Ed, Great notes. This shows how much you think through a topic.
1. Google might not be that enthusiastic about Flash since that would give Flash more control over the mobile, just like they do over the browsers. 2. Gears in a neat idea for web apps. Now if we all build webapps and then run it on mobile along with gears (just like existing desktop scenario) that would be neat too. And if we are talking about javascript then we cannot take away GWT from the discussion. So if a GWT + Gears web application can magically target many different clients (WebBrowser + MobileBrowser) etc., then that would be the killer framework in my opinion. Imagine GWT + Gears supporting Android.. Woah! On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Muthu, > > I think Google is saying that, with OS/hardware diversity in the > handset market that far exceeds the OS diversity in the desktop > market, the motivation to migrate almost all apps to web apps is even > higher than it is on the desktop. Since I do not tote a computer > between home and work, I never really know what hardware device I will > be using, it makes sense for the data to live on the web. I used > Google Docs spreadsheet to sell a Giant Reign mountain bike. It let me > share item by item how the bike was different from stock: > http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pUOy_vwbpTaSntjQGEVpuWg > > Anyway, Gears lets folks store stuff locally and it should let them > display stuff that is served locally, the goal here is to, for smart > phones at least, use the browser and the languages it supports as the > coin of the realm. For many applications much of the content can be > represented as that bike data base on the web. If you wrote the > application in java script with data embedded or downloaded with the > page, the application would still work offline as long as you did not > try to refresh when no web connection was present. Don't know how > enthusiastic Google is about flash.. there is a chance a large > percentage of most apps could be written in flash to run on all phones > that support flash. > > This link showing paper vs. plastic shows what can be done with flash: > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23358591/ > > The interactive part was active and worked well when the survey was > active. It seems to just report results now but later on the > interactive parts work. So Google loves web apps and supports the > heck out of them. Location information is likely to be integrated into > Gears raising all sorts of security concerns. A logical structure > would be a security plug-in for each app that allows the user to give > it access to location data, everything else runs through the browser, > locally served or not. > > Native mobile apps are for feature phones rather than smart phones, > and because of the battery issues native mobile apps on light > processors should have a decent market life. The Android architecture > makes these 'core of the market' phones significantly more useful than > before. > > I hope this shares my view and that Google sees this and agrees :-) > > Ed > > On Jul 6, 8:27 am, "Muthu Ramadoss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ed, > > > > Gears is for web apps, what about native mobile apps? > > > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 6:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anil, Muthu and Steve, > > > > > If your application is designed to run on the top and does not require > > > background processes i.e. is not a service, > > > > > Google Gears for Mobile might solve the 'run on other platforms > > > issues.' ( I keep forgetting about this for others as our stuff needs > > > to run in the background as currently envisioned/fixated). As I > > > understand it, it lets you move portions of server side data bases > > > down to the phone so web apps can work seamlessly through bad coverage > > > areas. If you are not trying to skype the service providers... there > > > should be good acceptance for each of your applications... if I > > > remember correctly. > > > > > If the application already requires the horsepower of a smart phone > > > (again, not ours!), I do not see why this approach would not solve the > > > VC money tap issue. > > > > > At the beginning of this talk the speaker surveys the audience asking > > > how many of the desktop developers are writing native apps and how > > > many are writing WEB apps. All are writing WEB apps. He then asks the > > > mobile folks. The situation is reversed. He says gears is going to > > > help change this. > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEgynWIKzSY > > > > > Here is a case study of Gears, watching this with a mobile mindset > > > will fill in the gaps. > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fsBDQ2ng8s > > > > > Anyway, this path may work for ~70% of the apps here on an i-phone > > > today. > > > > > Sorry about not mentioning this earlier,... been obsessed with driving > > > the cost of a location based, background processing, compass equipped > > > phone to the price level where you could give it to an elementary > > > school kid with no risk of inviting theft etc etc. Tool for the masses > > > whose need for money will drive them to carpool. > > > > > Ed > > > > > On Jul 6, 6:22 am, Steve Oldmeadow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Jul 6, 6:17 pm, "Muthu Ramadoss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Regarding pitching to VC's with an Android product.. How attractive > is > > > this > > > > > given the current scenario? > > > > > > I haven't spoken to any VCs. I talked to a couple of independent > > > > angel investors. There is definitely interest in Android but one of > > > > the first questions is will it run on other platforms? One guy I > > > > spoke to is already investing in a product that is coming to Android > > > > but their plan is Windows Mobile, then iPhone and then Android. > > > > -- > > take care, > > Muthu Ramadoss. > > > > http://cookingcapsules.com- nourish your droid.http://mobeegal.in- find > stuff closer. > > > -- take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://cookingcapsules.com - nourish your droid. http://mobeegal.in - find stuff closer. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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