yeah, id never consider an app to be done until its known to work on
the hardware.

On Oct 10, 1:09 pm, "Brad Gies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree that apps should be tested on real hardware before releasing to the
> public.
>
> Perhaps those who disagree should keep in mind that this is not the iPhone
> where there is only one, and it gets launched world wide.
>
> The coming Android/T-Mobile US launch is ONLY the T-Mobile US launch. There
> will be many more launches to come, possibly hundreds of them. The first
> mover advantage will not be nearly as significant in the Android market as
> it would be in the iPhone market, or many other markets.
>
> I doubt very much the benefits of releasing first will overcome the
> negatives of an app not performing well.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Brad Gies
>
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> Moderation in everything, including abstinence
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Sutton
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Developer's Challenge: Who's got their app
> done?
>
> I wouldn't use one example to prove a rule. First mover advantage may
> not be permanent when coupled with poor business skills, but it can give
> you enough starting cash to keep your product one step ahead of the rest
> if wisely use.
>
> I would be interested to hear what strategy alternatives you believe
> there are for the many non-US developers to get their apps to market
> either prior to the G1s' full launch or in the first weeks or month of
> availability? A few may be know people who can get them a G1, a few may
> go to the grey market, but for most emulator only testing is the only
> cost-effective strategy.
>
> Al.
>
> Mark Murphy wrote:
> > Al Sutton wrote:
>
> >> This would be a great idea if Google made the hardware available to
> >> everyone, but for developers who are part of the 95% of the worlds
> >> population who don't live in the US they have a choice;
>
> >> a) Release and rely on user feedback to help development.
>
> >> b) Hold back until they can get a device and risk losing out to
> >> developers in Googles preferred markets that are able to release code
> >> soon after the G1 is available.
>
> > I agree that, ideally, there'd be a way to purchase unlocked hardware
> > through a developer program. Problem is, I suspect this is a prime
> > loophole for device speculators who resell hardware on eBay. Besides,
> > the contracts between HTC and T-Mobile might not have allowed it,
> > regardless of what Google or any other OHA member might have wanted or
> > not wanted.
>
> >> So, although an release of emulator tested code may not be ideal, for
> >> many it's going to be the only option if they want to get things
> >> rolling, and who knows, developers may end up with users who do have
> >> G1s' who are want to help test and app and give feedback as opposed to
> >> having to wait until Google decide to launch the phone in the developers
> >> market.
>
> > That's one attitude. Another is "you only have one chance to make a
> > first impression".
>
> > Bear in mind that first-mover advantage is an advantage, not a guarantee
> > of success or, conversely, indicator of failure if you're not first. I
> > get the impression that plenty of iPhone apps that weren't available on
> > Day One have still gotten popular. Furthermore, if first-mover advantage
> > were permanent, we should all still be using WordStar as our word
> > processor. The fact that we aren't demonstrates that first-mover
> > advantage is not a permanent winning state.
>
> > I'm not questioning that, for some developers and some apps, launching
> > based on emulator-only testing is the right strategy. I do dispute the
> > notion that it is the only strategy.
>
> > And now, I sit back and wait for somebody to reply, "I *do* still use
> > WordStar, you insensitive clod!"... ;-)
>
>
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